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Re: [Assorted][Daily] SecretInfiltrator's SecretBase

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 5:14 pm
by SecretInfiltrator
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Mistkin Entrancer {3}{U}
Creature — Elemental Wizard (C)
Flying (This creature can't be blocked except by creatures with flying or reach.)
When ~ enters the battlefield, phase out target creature. It doesn't phase in during its controller's next untap step.
Your own dreams are an enticingly pleasant prison

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Re: [Assorted][Daily] SecretInfiltrator's SecretBase

Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2021 6:40 pm
by SecretInfiltrator
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Tideswept Sage {1}{U}
Creature — Plant Wizard (C)
{U}, {T}: Scry 1, then draw a card, then discard a card.
"If the kelp hasn't read about it in the tides, probably no one anywhere has."
—Zonyx, vellum scribe

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Re: [Assorted][Daily] SecretInfiltrator's SecretBase

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 11:33 am
by SecretInfiltrator
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Weathered Stoneroot {2}{R}
Creature — Treefolk Shaman (U)
As an additional cost to cast this spell, reveal a Treefolk card or Forest card from your hand or pay {3}.
At the beginning of your upkeep, add {R}{G}. Until end of turn, you don't lose this mana as steps and phases end.

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Re: [Assorted][Daily] SecretInfiltrator's SecretBase

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:18 pm
by Legend
Good stuff as usual. Very thoughtful designs.

Scarred Berserker seems like it could warp limited.

Somber Bay I like it alot though to me feels more like an Eldrazi emerge/breach of a 3/2 colorless Eldrazi Horror.

Re: [Assorted][Daily] SecretInfiltrator's SecretBase

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 10:11 am
by SecretInfiltrator
Thank you! I'm happy even french vanilla designs get liked.
Legend wrote:
2 years ago
Somber Bay I like it alot though to me feels more like an Eldrazi emerge/breach of a 3/2 colorless Eldrazi Horror.
The colorless Zombies definitely get their very own creative treatment. If Eldrazi were not quite such walking world-devouring cataclysms, I could see that, too. The ominous unsettling necro-biology of the Foul Ones is definitely something I wouldn't have come up with if I didn't have this prompt.

I suppose, every choice you make closes some doors for you. Doesn't mean there is no room for those designs in another project.

Re: [Assorted][Daily] SecretInfiltrator's SecretBase

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 10:17 am
by SecretInfiltrator
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Clear-Cut Solution {2}{B}{B}
Sorcery (R)
Choose a creature type or cardname of a nonbasic land. Destroy all permanents with the chosen type or cardname.

Re: [Assorted][Daily] SecretInfiltrator's SecretBase

Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:48 am
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Grace of Ancestral Laurels {4}{W}
Enchantment — Aura (C)
Enchant creature
When ~ enters the battlefield, create a 2/2 white Plant Spirit creature token with lifelink.
Enchanted creature gets +2/+2 and has lifelink.

Re: [Assorted][Daily] SecretInfiltrator's SecretBase

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 4:06 am
by SecretInfiltrator
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Cherryfolk Herder {3}{G}
Creature — Treefolk Shaman (U)
Reach (This creature can block creatures with flying.)
{T}: For each color among Saprolings you control, add one mana of that color.

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Re: [Assorted][Daily] SecretInfiltrator's SecretBase

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:14 pm
by SecretInfiltrator
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Benthic Surge {3}{U}
Sorcery (C)
Create three 1/1 blue Saproling creature tokens.
{3}{U}, Exile ~ from your graveyard: Up to three target token creatures gain flying until end of turn.
At the signal of their swarmherd a host of detritivores rushes from the sediment farms all the way to the surface and bursts into the air to pluck gulls from the winds.

Re: [Assorted][Daily] SecretInfiltrator's SecretBase

Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:00 pm
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Rustle of Leaves {1}{G}
Sorcery (C)
Search your library for a card that's a Plant, Treefolk and/or Forest, reveal it and put it into your hand. If you reveal a basic Forest card this way, you may put it onto the battlefield instead.

Re: [Assorted][Daily] SecretInfiltrator's SecretBase

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 12:04 pm
by SecretInfiltrator
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Hideous Creeper {4}{B}
Creature — Slug (C)
Feral — ~ has menace as long as its power is the greatest power among creatures you control.
Seldom there is a warning not to get close to the cavern slugs despite their danger. If you don't turn around from the smell or at the first glance of it, what are the chances you would heed a warning?

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Re: [Assorted][Daily] SecretInfiltrator's SecretBase

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 2:16 pm
by user_938036
I think this is the first card I've seen you make that doesn't work in the rules. Because of the way layers work you can't have a continuous ability that checks things deeper in the layers to grant something in a previous layer. Which means you can't check p/t to grant an ability unless it checks only at a specific time like a trigger or activated ability. The game can't "go back" and grant an ability after checking the p/t.

Re: [Assorted][Daily] SecretInfiltrator's SecretBase

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 3:02 pm
by Sporegorger_Dragon
user_938036 wrote:
2 years ago
I think this is the first card I've seen you make that doesn't work in the rules. Because of the way layers work you can't have a continuous ability that checks things deeper in the layers to grant something in a previous layer. Which means you can't check p/t to grant an ability unless it checks only at a specific time like a trigger or activated ability. The game can't "go back" and grant an ability after checking the p/t.
Maybe if it checks base power then?

Re: [Assorted][Daily] SecretInfiltrator's SecretBase

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 6:36 pm
by void_nothing
No need for that. It just needs to be a triggered ability that triggers every turn.

Re: [Assorted][Daily] SecretInfiltrator's SecretBase

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 9:40 pm
by user_938036
Sporegorger_Dragon wrote:
2 years ago
user_938036 wrote:
2 years ago
I think this is the first card I've seen you make that doesn't work in the rules. Because of the way layers work you can't have a continuous ability that checks things deeper in the layers to grant something in a previous layer. Which means you can't check p/t to grant an ability unless it checks only at a specific time like a trigger or activated ability. The game can't "go back" and grant an ability after checking the p/t.
Maybe if it checks base power then?
Its still checking layer 7b to apply an effect in layer 6. Which is a problem. Continuous effects simply can't function this way for the purpose of internal consistency. A triggered ability would work fine as they handle the reading of the game differently. Just trigger at combat to grant menace. Other than the odd case of an opponent powering up a creature so it loses menace mid combat so it can be blocked by a single creature it should accomplish the same goal.

Re: [Assorted][Daily] SecretInfiltrator's SecretBase

Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 6:49 am
by SecretInfiltrator
Let thatbe a lesson: Never blindly copy the wording of another custom card creator. But then again the/a point of [Tribute] sets is for me to throw caution into the wind and work with a foundation of cards that I often wouldn't have created myself. Feral is a perfect example not just because ofits iffy use on static abilities, but because caring about having a single greatest power is really creating a deck that plays against itself if you have e. g. two or three feral creatures out. The mechanic is flawed in many ways.

The observation that layers are problematic here is correct. The cards needs to be changed. Triggering at combat would seem suitable, but then this card is part of a pretty tight cycle that doesn't involve only combat abilities. Granting hexproof only at the beginning of combat seems less useful.

So for now it seems like an activated ability seems the best way to go. And I actually have already a grand way to make this ability potentially cool and unique and still common. I'll update the card soon, but here is my preview solution:

Feral{B}: ~ gains menace until end of turn. This ability costs {B} less to activate if ~'s power is the greatest power among creatures you control.

Maybe I'll be able to do something about this card being worse than Cavern Whisperer, too, at some point. : )

Re: [Assorted][Daily] SecretInfiltrator's SecretBase

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:17 am
by SecretInfiltrator
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Zher Vul Firecat {2}{R}
Creature — Elemental Cat (C)
Haste, trample
At the beginning of the end step, sacrifice ~.
Scavenge {4}{R}{R} ({4}{R}{R}, Exile this card from your graveyard: Put a number of +1/+1 counters equal to this card's power on target creature. Scavenge only as a sorcery.)

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Re: [Assorted][Daily] SecretInfiltrator's SecretBase

Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:56 am
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Dustwing Aquillix {W}{W}{W}
Creature — Lizard Beast (C)
Flying (This creature can't be blocked except by creatures with flying or reach.)
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Re: [Assorted][Daily] SecretInfiltrator's SecretBase

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2021 5:08 am
by SecretInfiltrator
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Secretive Undorak {1}{G}{U}
Creature — Beast (U)
Creatures you control and haven't controlled since the beginning of your most recent turn get +2/+2.
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Re: [Assorted][Daily] SecretInfiltrator's SecretBase

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:14 pm
by user_938036
That is an ability. Five times reading it outloud to myself before I had any idea what it actually did and I'm still uncertain. If you could confirm, this is supposed to give all creatures +2/+2 except those that have been swapped control by threaten?

Re: [Assorted][Daily] SecretInfiltrator's SecretBase

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2021 8:32 pm
by SecretInfiltrator
user_938036 wrote:
2 years ago
That is an ability. Five times reading it outloud to myself before I had any idea what it actually did and I'm still uncertain. If you could confirm, this is supposed to give all creatures +2/+2 except those that have been swapped control by threaten?
It's actually supposed to work best with flash, haste and change of control.

Here a proposal for an improved less ambiguous wording o the functionally same ability: "Each creature you control that you haven't controlled since the beginning of your most recent turn gets +2/+2." The wording is IIRC identical with the definition of summoning sickness.

If I had intended your interpretation I would have doubled on mentioning "creatures" i. e. "Creatures you control and creatures that you haven't controlled since the beginning of your most recent turn get +2/+2." Alternatively I could have used "and/or".

Useful to have those extra pairs of eyes discovering ambiguous and hard to parse wording.

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Slickwing {1}{U}
Creature — Bird (C)
Flying
Evolve (Whenever a creature enters the battlefield under your control, if that creature has greater power or toughness than this creature, put a +1/+1 counter on this creature.)
"I never noticed before the resemblance of those small coastal predators to the terrors that hunt mammoths far inland."
—Mmoya, eye witch

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Re: [Assorted][Daily] SecretInfiltrator's SecretBase

Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2021 2:34 pm
by SecretInfiltrator
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Rotten Larva {B}
Creature — Insect Zombie (R)
Whenever another creature card leaves your graveyard, you may pay {1}{B}. If you do, return ~ to the battlefield tapped.
Many echin brood hills are corrupted by necromantic miasmas from the Urak. Their larval stock will hunger forever, but never grow beyond the feeding stage.

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Re: [Assorted][Daily] SecretInfiltrator's SecretBase

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 6:34 pm
by SecretInfiltrator
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Infernal Hellkite {R}{R}{R}{R}{R}
Creature — Dragon Beast (M)
Flying
When ~ enters the battlefield, sacrifice two nonland permanents.
The peaks of Zher Vul are home to those that breath smoke and bleed fire.

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Re: [Assorted][Daily] SecretInfiltrator's SecretBase

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 7:13 pm
by SecretInfiltrator
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Leyline Archmage {3}{U}{U}
Creature — Human Wizard (R)
If ~ is in your opening hand, you may begin the game with it on the battlefield.
Flying
~ can't attack or block unless you control five or more lands.
{U}, {T}: Scry 1.

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Re: [Assorted][Daily] SecretInfiltrator's SecretBase

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 1:30 pm
by SecretInfiltrator
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Roaring Fume-Jaw {4}{R}
Creature — Elemental Dinosaur (C)
Menace (This creature can't be blocked except by two or more creatures.)
When ~ enters the battlefield, up to two target creatures can't block this turn.
The faith of the populace is fueled by fear not only of the Cloth, but also of the things that claw their way out of the earth.

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