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Re: The MCC Discussion Thread

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:40 am
by void_nothing
...You mean a prudent update, right?

Prurient means something that would inspire the :kank: emote from MTGS, lol.

Re: The MCC Discussion Thread

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:50 am
by Sojourner Dusk
void_nothing wrote:
3 years ago
...You mean a prudent update, right?

Prurient means something that would inspire the :kank: emote from MTGS, lol.
Whaaaat?! I can't imagine that I'd ever confuse those two words.


Don't get old, kids. And avoid concussions.

Re: The MCC Discussion Thread

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:03 am
by void_nothing
Anyway... that really doesn't change the meaning of the category imo, but it seems like it makes it clearer.

Re: The MCC Discussion Thread

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:57 am
by Lorn Asbord Schutta
Is devotion to must be the only one on card, as in Thassa, God of the Sea, or the mixed devotion, as in Athreos, God of Passage, counts as well?

Re: The MCC Discussion Thread

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 6:46 pm
by Sojourner Dusk
Theros had five mono devotion Gods needing five pips on board to become a creature. Born of the Gods and Journey Into Nyx each had five dual devotion Gods needing seven pips on board to become a creature.

The challenge is for a God of . While it would not result in a DQ, you might receive a point reduction from Judges if other pips are involved.

Re: The MCC Discussion Thread

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 7:20 pm
by slimytrout
BaconCatBug wrote:
3 years ago
I considered Intentionally forfeiting the Generic Mana Sub-challenge to fit better with the god Cycle but I think this works assuming the set has Wastes and enough colourless support.
Wanted to give you a heads up, because you're relatively newer to the MCC: this sort of explanation in your entry is liable to earn the displeasure of the judges, if not an outright disqualification, since it seems to be pretty clearly trying to influence the judging in one way or another. If you want to avoid possible penalties, your submission should include only your card text, plus optionally a render of said card. If you do feel like there's any point that *really* needs explanation (say, an important rules issue), then this forum is the place to do that, but in general your entry should be able to stand on its own.

Re: The MCC Discussion Thread

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 2:26 pm
by BaconCatBug
Fair enough, I'll remove it. I didn't realise it was a faux pas.

Re: The MCC Discussion Thread

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 4:54 am
by Sojourner Dusk
@Feyd_Ruin: Roughly 23 hours left to get your Round 2 entry in for the August MCC.,

Re: The MCC Discussion Thread

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:02 am
by Feyd_Ruin
Thank you for the heads up.

I may or may not have lost track of time and forgotten.
But in my defense, I've been working on something you will all hopefully love >_<

Re: The MCC Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 2:47 am
by BaconCatBug
Thank you for the feedback :)

Re: The MCC Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 3:59 am
by void_nothing
I'm going to get my judgments in late (by less than a day) - I'm in the middle of a move and need to be up at 6AM, and won't have the time until tomorrow afternoon. My apologies!

Re: The MCC Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:37 am
by Lorn Asbord Schutta
@Sojourner Dusk, I am sure that Freyleyes submission's activated ability reads similiar Mind's Dilation, in that it casts all the exiled spells at once at the resolving - if you choose to not cast them, you have to activate the ability once again.

Re: The MCC Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:02 am
by Subject16
slimytrout wrote:
3 years ago
The devotion requirement is deeply confusing on multiple levels, and I honestly don't even quite understand what it's supposed to mean. But what it literally says is "devotion to each color and to colorless," which I think literally means "count up every non-generic pip," so that's how I'm interpreting it. I don't think that's actually what you meant, but this is a case where reminder text is necessary. Maybe you meant "devotion to any color or to colorless"? Genuinely not sure, so I have to go with the text of the card.
The intention was to have your devotion to every color (and colorless) need to be two or more, meaning Progenitus and itself would make it a creature, not just two devotion to any one thing. The wording is a little weird, but I based it off of Altar of the Pantheon since it's the only card that references devotion to all colors.

Re: The MCC Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:18 pm
by slimytrout
@Subject16 I'm happy to reevaluate it in light of that new information if you'd like, although I should warn you that I'm not actually sure it will help (and might actually hurt) since the increase in Balance will be counteracted by a decrease in Appeal and Quality. I can see how you ended up at that wording, but I am fairly confident that the correct one is something like "devotion to any color or to colorless," since Altar of the Pantheon is a inclusive statement (*all* your devotions go up) whereas Nyx has an exclusive statement (if *any* of your devotions...).

Re: The MCC Discussion Thread

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 5:11 am
by BaconCatBug
Regarding "non-evergreen mechanics", would Colourless Phyrexian Mana count? I know we're supposed to keep to mechanics that "existed" at the time of the set in question, but considering the theme is the premature introduction of C, is it ok to assume that Image would have been included? Or is that bending the challenge too far? If this question is inappropriate feel free to refuse to answer.

Do we need to keep the "to your mana pool" rider that would have existed at the time of Future Sight?

Re: The MCC Discussion Thread

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 5:59 am
by Sojourner Dusk
BaconCatBug wrote:
3 years ago
Regarding "non-evergreen mechanics", would Colourless Phyrexian Mana count? I know we're supposed to keep to mechanics that "existed" at the time of the set in question, but considering the theme is the premature introduction of C, is it ok to assume that Image would have been included? Or is that bending the challenge too far? If this question is inappropriate feel free to refuse to answer.

Do we need to keep the "to your mana pool" rider that would have existed at the time of Future Sight?
Phyrexian mana (pay 2 life or one of the chosen mana type) is a non-evergreen mechanic.

You do not need to use period accurate rules text for Future Sight (and some Judges may appreciate using current templating).

@Feyd_Ruin Your current submission does not produce/generate mana on its own, Creating a Treasure token does not meet the Challenge.

Re: The MCC Discussion Thread

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:54 pm
by Subject16
Sojourner Dusk wrote:
3 years ago
Subchallenge 2: Your entry includes a non-evergreen mechanic from one of the following sets: Conflux (2009); New Phyrexia (2011); Innistrad (2011); or Fate Reforged (2015).
By include, does that mean it needs to have the mechanic itself like Yidaro, Wandering Monster, or can it simply interact with it like Gavi, Nest Warden?

Re: The MCC Discussion Thread

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:59 pm
by Feyd_Ruin
Sojourner Dusk wrote:
3 years ago
@Feyd_Ruin Your current submission does not produce/generate mana on its own, Creating a Treasure token does not meet the Challenge.
Oops. I guess I took the challenge more generally than literally.
Removed invalid entry; will have to think on this again.
Apologies.

Re: The MCC Discussion Thread

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:32 pm
by Sojourner Dusk
Subject16 wrote:
3 years ago
Sojourner Dusk wrote:
3 years ago
Subchallenge 2: Your entry includes a non-evergreen mechanic from one of the following sets: Conflux (2009); New Phyrexia (2011); Innistrad (2011); or Fate Reforged (2015).
By include, does that mean it needs to have the mechanic itself like Yidaro, Wandering Monster, or can it simply interact with it like Gavi, Nest Warden?
If an entry only interacts with a mechanic on another card, by definition that would mean it doesn't include it.

Re: The MCC Discussion Thread

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:22 am
by BaconCatBug
Clarification Request: Are coloured artifacts a non-evergreen mechanic from New Phyrexia? I assume Infect is anyway.

Re: The MCC Discussion Thread

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 3:55 am
by Sojourner Dusk
BaconCatBug wrote:
3 years ago
Clarification Request: Are coloured artifacts a non-evergreen mechanic from New Phyrexia? I assume Infect is anyway.
As of Core Set 2020, colored artifacts (we only use real English words here, not that British nonsense) are deciduous, but are not yet evergreen, so it works for Subchallenge 2 as being either for New Phyrexia or Conflux, depending on the entry's flavor.

Re: The MCC Discussion Thread

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:13 am
by BaconCatBug
Good stuff, thank you for all the work on these challenges!

Re: The MCC Discussion Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 4:36 pm
by BaconCatBug
I hope everyone is ok! I am chomping at the bit to see how badly I lose. :D

Re: The MCC Discussion Thread

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:14 am
by Sojourner Dusk
After a week of curveballs, sliders, and chin music, final scores for August are in.

BaconCatBug: 58.5
Feyd_Ruin: 62.5
Subject16: 56.5
LAS: 58.25

This month's winner is @Feyd_Ruin!
Contrary to rumors, Judges were not threatened with having to listen to Megiddo sing "Let It Go" for 72 uninterrupted hours if Feyd didn't win.

Thanks to all the contestants that suffered through this month's challenges.

Re: The MCC Discussion Thread

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:16 am
by void_nothing
September MCC judge signups are still open as the first round closes in about 22 hours. We will need just one more judge - please sign up if you can!