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Post by Dunharrow » 2 years ago

Still really strong in Alesha and Marchesa, which can abuse both abilities. If your general is 6+ mana, it can also be a good accelerant. Great with Mimic Vat.

Still better than Burnished Hart.
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Post by Serenade » 2 years ago

This art is so bad.
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Serenade wrote:
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This art is so bad.
Agreed. Looks like Jonah Hill attempting to cosplay Borg.

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Post by hyalopterouslemur » 2 years ago

If you're using Alesha, Who Smiles at Death or Reveillark, or plan on using him as sac fuel or for entry/death triggers, he can be "fair". (Possibly also if you blink a lot.) If you're not in green, he's also "fair". If you're in Animar, he's still "fair". But some decks can combo out on turn 4, especially with the help of tutors, and the archetypal n00b mistake is "not enough disruption".

If you are in green, Sakura-Tribe Elder, Wood Elves, and Farhaven Elf also exist. If you don't need creatures in particular, Nature's Lore, Farseek, Kodama's Reach/Cultivate, Explosive Vegetation, Skyshroud Claim, Far Wanderings. If you're playing tokens, Harvest Season and Primal Growth. If you're doing some sort of shenanigans, Reap and Sow That said, if you're in green, you're probably doing a lot of ramping.
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Post by lyonhaert » 2 years ago

NoNeedToBragoBoutIt wrote:
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Serenade wrote:
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This art is so bad.
Agreed. Looks like Jonah Hill attempting to cosplay Borg.
Y'all know this version includes the likeness of a tournament winner, right?

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Post by 3drinks » 2 years ago

lyonhaert wrote:
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NoNeedToBragoBoutIt wrote:
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Serenade wrote:
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This art is so bad.
Agreed. Looks like Jonah Hill attempting to cosplay Borg.
Y'all know this version includes the likeness of a tournament winner, right?
I will only ever use my MRD copy of Sad Bot for that reason. Respect for those that came before. A friend calls that one "Creeper Bot that touches kids down the street" and I just don't know how to respond.

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Post by lyonhaert » 2 years ago

3drinks wrote:
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A friend calls that one "Creeper Bot that touches kids down the street" and I just don't know how to respond.
IMO one responds to that by asking questions that make them face the stereotypes and biases such statements are based on. YMMV

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lyonhaert wrote:
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Y'all know this version includes the likeness of a tournament winner, right?
Yeah, i know. Even with Kai being a fellow countryman and one of my favorite players in the history of MTG the card still looks like Jonah Hill.
As far as i'm concerned there's not a single beautiful version of Sad Bot.
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A friend calls that one "Creeper Bot that touches kids down the street" and I just don't know how to respond.
What a stupid thing to say.

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Post by Myllior » 2 years ago

The Mirrodin card art is the best card art because it reminds me of Arnold Rimmer from Red Dwarf. Also the only version of the card's art that seems to understand the definition of the word "solemn".
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I remember people being underwhelmed with it when it first was previewed, and then seeing it find heavy play in one of the most powerful Standard formats ever.
Ah yes. Standing proudly alongside Darksteel Colossus|DST, Leonin Abunas|MRD, Platinum Angel|MRD and Tooth and Nail|MRD to hold back the horde of Ravager Affinity decks. Solemn Simulacrum|MRD's place in that deck is definitely another reason I like the Mirrodin version best.

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Myllior wrote:
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The Mirrodin card art is the best card art because it reminds me of Arnold Rimmer from Red Dwarf. Also the only version of the card's art that seems to understand the definition of the word "solemn".
Surely you mean Kryten?

It's a weird card in this format in that in the right place it can be solid, but other places it's totally overvalued. I'd never bother with in in my Nissa build for example, but it's remarkably great in my Bruna and Glissa builds. I guess that tells you what you need to know about it. Decent ramp for decks that don't otherwise have superior options, solid recursion value in artifact builds. It's probably no longer a format staple like it once would have been, but still decent nonetheless.
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Post by Serenade » 2 years ago

I didn't get a copy of this card until they printed it with better art.
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Post by Myllior » 2 years ago

toctheyounger wrote:
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Surely you mean Kryten?
Kryten makes more sense physically, but for me it's the face that makes me think of Rimmer. The projected self-pride despite being less than he desires, which is exacerbated by his being a hologram. In ways, Rimmer is indeed a solemn simulacrum. (Also smug and neurotic, but hey).

Also because the first time I saw the card was shortly after I watched an episode and I looked too quickly and thought it had a slightly smug expression.

Regarding the card itself, I have to agree with others' assessments of it in the format. I probably wouldn't play it at all if I didn't already have a copy.

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Myllior wrote:
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toctheyounger wrote:
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Surely you mean Kryten?
Kryten makes more sense physically, but for me it's the face that makes me think of Rimmer. The projected self-pride despite being less than he desires, which is exacerbated by his being a hologram. In ways, Rimmer is indeed a solemn simulacrum. (Also smug and neurotic, but hey).

Also because the first time I saw the card was shortly after I watched an episode and I looked too quickly and thought it had a slightly smug expression.

Regarding the card itself, I have to agree with others' assessments of it in the format. I probably wouldn't play it at all if I didn't already have a copy.
Yeah, I can understand that. I guess just the smug pretension and airs above his station is my enduring impression of him. But I can totally understand the parallels.

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Post by Mookie » 2 years ago

I don't think Solemn Simulacrum is a staple card anymore, but it's still good. There are better options for colorless ramp and card draw than there were several years ago, so I wouldn't run Solemn just to generate a bit of incidental value anymore. Its main strength thus isn't in doing any particular job particularly well, but in how many synergies exist to make it more valuable.

For example....
- it has 2 power for Mentor of the Meek
- it's an artifact for Sai, Master Thopterist and Teshar, Ancestor's Apostle
- it has an ETB effect for Panharmonicon
- it provides ramp that doesn't get shut down by Bane of Progress or Stony Silence
- it triggers landfall and helps turn on Emeria, the Sky Ruin and Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle
- it has a death trigger for Teysa Karlov
- it provides a shuffle for Sensei's Divining Top
- it has an expendable body for Yawgmoth, Thran Physician
....and many, many more.

I wouldn't run Solemn without some sort of synergy to take advantage of it, but enough synergies exist to make it a reasonable inclusion in many decks.

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Post by pokken » 2 years ago

I always wind up cutting it. Its too slow.

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Post by plushpenguin » 2 years ago

I use it I can turn it into an engine in itself. Otherwise I leave it out.

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Post by Henlock » 2 years ago

I haven't actually ever owned one and never felt like I needed it.That's probably because most of my decks run green and ramp is very good without even trying hard. The ones that don't have green are not the right home for it. The 4 cost is not good for Teshar nor Sun Titan, He's not big enough for Brion, and has no tribal sinergy with Lin Sivvi nor Celestial Kirin, but might deserve a chance in those. I don't see a reason for not to try it in Temmet either.

It's funny that this is a staple and I have never played it. But now that I've got a Gerrard I might have finally found a way to squeeze the juice off it.

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Post by 3drinks » 2 years ago

Tuesday, August 27th, 2019; Thawing Glaciers

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Post by folding_music » 2 years ago

My favourite card of all time!

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Post by Serenade » 2 years ago

Mmmm, one time I had Rings and Amulet of Vigor out. My Coffers got HUGE.
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Post by DirkGently » 2 years ago

I can one-up you - lotus cobra + stone-seeder hierophant. Found that combo by accident in my arixmethes untap-lands themed deck.
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Post by lyonhaert » 2 years ago

I still run Thawing Glaciers in Chainer, partly because Rings and Deserted Temple are in there. It's rather busy-work to use it and it's no "turn 1: Myriad Landscape, turn 2: Sol Ring, turn 3: ccbbbb", but I'm pretty sure it's always been useful to me at least early-to-mid-game.

Edit: I also like to use this with landfall, along with jank like Undiscovered Paradise (assuming methods to play more than one land per turn, of course).

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Post by 3drinks » 2 years ago

Glaciers has always been one of my go-to CA engines, grinding you out at ~0.75 lands/2 turns. Reliable. I don't even have the blowout stories like you do (well, okay, I once got to use it with stone-seeder hierophant), but I'm typically just happy to play a karoo after I've activated glaciers.

Dare I say it's the unsung hero of the format, especially in non ramp colours.
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Post by Sinis » 2 years ago

3drinks wrote:
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Tuesday, August 27th, 2019; Thawing Glaciers
I really like it; I remember opening one in Alliances, and I have played it on and off ever since. It moves at a terribly slow speed, but, it's nice to always have a land drop.

It usually lives in my resident monoblack control deck.

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Post by hyalopterouslemur » 2 years ago

I just wanted to mention the Masterpiece Sadbot makes me think of Judge Dredd.

Anyway, what can I say? Amulet of Vigor exists, Rings of Brighthearth exists, and you can even untap it a lot. Early on, the best you had was Ley Druid, but we can do better now. Being a reusable fetchland also gives it value with cards like Oracle of Mul Daya and Azusa, Lost but Seeking, since you'll never miss one drop at a bare minimum, and often have two. It's great for landfall decks, like all fetches.

Now, any fetchland will do better with Crucible of Worlds, Sun Titan, or Ramunap Excavator, but this doesn't need that kind of help. It needs a totally different kind of help.
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