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Post by bt67 » 2 years ago

I run Aetherworks Marvel in my Prossh deck, just him coming into play and sacing the 6 Kolbolds gets you a activation, plus the deck runs a huge token theme along with ways to sac them like using the Devour mechanic and every time I've drawn AE it was useful....

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Post by Hermes_ » 2 years ago

make tokens
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Post by Dunharrow » 2 years ago

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I remember there was a guy that was excited to ram it into his Marchesa, the Black Rose. I don't remember it taking on too dominant a role in there. However, that deck saw it fit to Jokulhaups finish, so I avoided interacting with it too much :P think Marchesa's one of the better commanders for it, but there are already so many other (likely better) things you could be doing with her. That's probably how the card will also shake out in other potential brews.
I would not run it in my Marchesa deck. First of all, manifest is a lot better for cheating things into play. Second of all, the deck has a low curve so activating this once per turn cycle seems worse than playing cards that trigger whenever a creature dies.
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Post by toctheyounger » 2 years ago

I've wanted to run it before myself, but haven't really had the deck to it in. I feel like it'd be good in a self-sac/aristocrats style shell - maybe Teysa Karlov or Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim would suit it?
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Post by lyonhaert » 2 years ago

[mention]Dunharrow[/mention], I don't think I've seen your Marchesa list. May I?

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Post by 3drinks » 2 years ago

I had tried it in a Glissa deck with grinding station. I...was underwhelmed and it did not take long to cut it.
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Post by Morganelefay » 2 years ago

Until we get more energy generators and payoffs, energy cards will always have a hard time in EDH. Aetherworks Marvel has potentional but is too unreliable right now.
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Post by 3drinks » 2 years ago

Friday, August 16th, 2019; Myr Enforcer

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Post by DirkGently » 2 years ago

I remember loving this in 2003 in my short-lived standard affinity control deck. Then rafinity came along...

Anyway it's not a huge payoff for artifacts really. Even a 0-mana 4/4 would be pretty unexciting, and this is a 0-mana 4/4 on like turn 3 at the earliest. Only real benefit I see is the relatively high CMC if you care about that.
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Post by 3drinks » 2 years ago

I once contemplated the inception of a Vial Smasher/Tymna affinity deck. The dream of windmilling this guy for 0, doming you for 7, was good. Great even. What happened to it?

Well, I did say I contemplated it's inception once....
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Post by lyonhaert » 2 years ago

Well now I'm imagining some sort of grixis artifact jank with cards like this, Bosh, Iron Golem, Energy Tap, and Priest of Yawgmoth/Soldevi Adnate.

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Post by The N82O Molecule » 2 years ago

3drinks wrote:
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man in a world of artifact lands this guy is neat.

I would think in edh you could reduce the cost. . .but ill say this. . .paying any more than zero for this guy your doing It wrong haha

affinity is beautiful and its sick depressing child metalcraft. . .I digress

I look forward to the return to mirrodin/new phyrexia and the exploration of its children. . .the Myr
and the rise of Venser as the lord of machines

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Post by Dunharrow » 2 years ago

I have seen Frogmite in EDH but not the enforcer. If you want free artifacts, this is a long way down the list... and if you want a vanilla 4/4, you're not playing my kind of EDH.
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Post by lyonhaert » 2 years ago

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...and the rise of Venser as the lord of machines
Ain't he dead, though?

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Post by Mookie » 2 years ago

I can't think of any good reasons to run a vanilla 4/4 creature, even if it is potentially free - the body just isn't impactful enough. If you want something like this, I would point to Metalwork Colossus, which has a much larger body (and a faster-scaling cost reduction ability).

There are some reasons to run expensive artifact creatures with low effective casting costs - Bosh, Iron Golem has been mentioned, but there are also cards like Padeem, Consul of Innovation, Muzzio, Visionary Architect, and One With the Machine. Birthing Pod and Prime Speaker Vannifar may also be worth consideration - the best 8 drop (Griselbrand) isn't legal, but there are other 8 mana creatures worth podding into.

Might be worth consideration for a pauper / peasant artifact-based aggro deck, if that is a thing that exists.

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Post by The N82O Molecule » 2 years ago

lyonhaert wrote:
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...and the rise of Venser as the lord of machines
Ain't he dead, though?
im a firm believer that he is not dead. "Phyrexia" doesn't kill, rather its not the first option. did his spark save Karn? sure, when you lose your spark are you dead? so they say ;)

nothing a little compleation and imagination cant fix

anyway he deserves it, secondly we could use him. . .he created a device that could teleport. . .im thinking like. . .hey man make one of those things and lets start spreading the word at how amazing you (venser) are and stuff (obv when I say you I mean us and by us my mean all that is phyrexian)

he could change his name . . rather transend the name Venser and become more. . .ahem. . .so anyway yeah not dead (to me)

I take it you think hes dead? I honestly hope he is not, as I really enjoyed the time spiral books and his character within it. his planeswalker cards are a little off color and such. . .but im holding onto a little piece of him haha

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Post by Legend » 2 years ago

Myr Enforcer Was a four-of in every Standard Affinity Deck 2004-5. A multifaceted deck that could consistently win on turn 3-5 in Standard.
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Post by lyonhaert » 2 years ago

The N82O Molecule wrote:
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I take it you think hes dead?
That was my vague recollection. Obscured by the passage of time and many sleeps.

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lyonhaert wrote:
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The N82O Molecule wrote:
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I take it you think hes dead?
That was my vague recollection. Obscured by the passage of time and many sleeps.
you are correct.

im a dreamer Lyonhaert

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Post by hyalopterouslemur » 2 years ago

I like Myr Enforcer in other formats, like the period when affinity was Standard-legal. It's not as useful here in EDH, because you only get 6 artifact lands in a 99-card deck instead of 24 in a 60-card deck. (Which is good: Free spells will walk away with the game.) One particular issue is, it's a virtual vanilla: Other than affinity, it does nothing but be a 4/4.

And yeah, I like the idea of Venser, Father of Machines. Wait, Koth was smart enough to burn Venser's body, right?
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The N82O Molecule wrote:
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im a firm believer that he is not dead. "Phyrexia" doesn't kill, rather its not the first option. did his spark save Karn? sure, when you lose your spark are you dead? so they say
There are at least a couple of people who lost their sparks and lived; Nicol Bolas (he's just stuck on the Meditation Plane, apparently) and Azor, the Lawbringer (trapped on Ixalan).

So, losing or 'spending' your spark doesn't kill you, per se. It's interesting that the eternal's despark process killed Domri and Dack Fayden, but somehow did not kill Nicol Bolas.

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Post by lyonhaert » 2 years ago

Ob Nixilis didn't die from losing his spark, either. Maybe it's a fortitude thing (i.e., humans are squishy).

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Post by The N82O Molecule » 2 years ago

I appreciate the imagination!!

until wizards goes back its canon that he is dead sadly

i sorta picture in my head a moment where venser loses his spark (starts dying), karn kneels down and picks up his upper body and chest, venser sorta looks up at his old friend and they have a moment. . .vensers last gasp and dies in karns arms, karn sets the body back and they begin dialogue as book notates. what the book didn't tell you is a phyrexian comes up and does the same thing. . .then venser says. . .im not quit dead yet, i feel better actually. . .looks up at the phyrexian and then compleation (oh and to keep this on point a myr inforcer was also there)

his rise as lord of machines merely implies, well phyrexian oil is in need of a spark. . .and venser can be that vessel, but his temperament or vision will be askew (away from previous lord of machines), maybe he just wants to get back home to Urborg anyway haha

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Saturday, August 17th, 2019; Hurkyl's Recall

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3drinks wrote:
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Back when I still played U, this was a cornerstone card of every one of my Mystical Tutor packages. Was never sad to see, always a blowout, especially effective when you make someone commit to an attack and then pull this to deny them the sword triggers they were relying on.
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