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Post by LastConformist » 2 years ago

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"In response, I cycle Barren Moor, triggering Astral Slide, targeting my face down creature. End step, return Exalted Angel to the battlefield face up..."
I really want to build a deck that might do something like this, but, I'm really at a loss for inspiration. I feel like Zur might not be well received at my tables.
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Post by 3drinks » 2 years ago

@[mention]LastConformist[/mention],

Stay tuned, then. 😉
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Tuesday, July 23rd, 2019; Sands of Time

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Post by Rumpy5897 » 2 years ago

Think this had more purpose back when mana burn was a thing. Now it's probably more of a very mild mild chaos piece than anything.
 
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Post by Sinis » 2 years ago

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Let's not kid ourselves, this card is hot garbage.

But, part of it appeals to me; I really like cards that persuade or force players to go all out in terms of attacks or spending resources, like Angel's Trumpet, Total War and War's Toll.

I wonder if there are enough cards to play along a theme of "Use it or lose it!"

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Post by 3drinks » 2 years ago

[mention]Rumpy5897[/mention] I like how it forces you to tap creatures and artifacts differently so you don't have to risk phasing out. Kinda an interesting if half ass answer to winter orb if they don't have a tap mechanism.
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Post by Henlock » 2 years ago

Sinis wrote:
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3drinks wrote:
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Tuesday, July 23rd, 2019; Sands of Time
Let's not kid ourselves, this card is hot garbage.

But, part of it appeals to me; I really like cards that persuade or force players to go all out in terms of attacks or spending resources, like Angel's Trumpet, Total War and War's Toll.

I wonder if there are enough cards to play along a theme of "Use it or lose it!"
I'm not sure if there are enough cards but right now I can think of Citadel of pain and Oracle en-vec kind of fitting in the theme. There are quite some red effects forcing attacks, too.

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Post by 3drinks » 2 years ago

Henlock wrote:
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Sinis wrote:
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3drinks wrote:
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Tuesday, July 23rd, 2019; Sands of Time
Let's not kid ourselves, this card is hot garbage.

But, part of it appeals to me; I really like cards that persuade or force players to go all out in terms of attacks or spending resources, like Angel's Trumpet, Total War and War's Toll.

I wonder if there are enough cards to play along a theme of "Use it or lose it!"
I'm not sure if there are enough cards but right now I can think of Citadel of pain and Oracle en-vec kind of fitting in the theme. There are quite some red effects forcing attacks, too.

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Norritt. The card you're thinking of is that and Nettling Imp. :D
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Post by Rumpy5897 » 2 years ago

And there's also Maddening Imp, whose stupid mug is one of my favourite magic arts :P
 
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Post by Hermes_ » 2 years ago

I wonder if i would get smacked if i combined this with Tangle wire
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Post by Sinis » 2 years ago

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And there's also Maddening Imp, whose stupid mug is one of my favourite magic arts
I'll be honest, it reminds me of the "You don't say?" meme starring Nicolas Cage.

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Post by toctheyounger » 2 years ago

This is one of the first cards I was exposed to when I first started playing. I loved the flavour then and it's still kinda cool now. Still, hard to find a use for. Maybe in an Emmara 2.0 deck? Maybe, if you squint real hard.

I do like cards that have the use it or lose it vibe, so there's that. I just think it's been done a little better since this was released.
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Post by hyalopterouslemur » 2 years ago

Well, it can tap artifacts and creatures too. And it keeps Gideon tapped down. But that's about it.
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Post by Mookie » 2 years ago

If I'm reading it correctly, it combos with Strionic Resonator - copy the trigger, use it to untap Resonator and your lands, repeat for infinite mana. Requires an instant speed mana sink though, since this is during your upkeep.

Could also be interesting if you have ways to tap your own creatures to minimize the downside, such as vehicles or tap abilities.

Add in Eon Hub to make things even more miserable.

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Mookie wrote:
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If I'm reading it correctly, it combos with Strionic Resonator - copy the trigger, use it to untap Resonator and your lands, repeat for infinite mana. Requires an instant speed mana sink though, since this is during your upkeep.
Shivan Hellkite ought to do the trick.
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Post by Hermes_ » 2 years ago

3drinks wrote:
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If I'm reading it correctly, it combos with Strionic Resonator - copy the trigger, use it to untap Resonator and your lands, repeat for infinite mana. Requires an instant speed mana sink though, since this is during your upkeep.
Shivan Hellkite ought to do the trick.
hmmm Omnath, Locus of Mana maybe?
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Post by Myllior » 2 years ago

This is an interesting piece to nullify Seedborn Muse. Can't untap during other players' untap steps if they don't have one.

E: Also Unwinding Clock and similar effects. It's not a great card itself, but it is a way to help force people back into only having one effective turn per cycle.

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Hermes_ wrote:
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If I'm reading it correctly, it combos with Strionic Resonator - copy the trigger, use it to untap Resonator and your lands, repeat for infinite mana. Requires an instant speed mana sink though, since this is during your upkeep.
Shivan Hellkite ought to do the trick.
hmmm Omnath, Locus of Mana maybe?
That's not a kill though, it's just a mana battery. You've got unlimited untaps here, you need to capitalize with more than a mana battery.
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3drinks wrote:
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Shivan Hellkite ought to do the trick.
hmmm Omnath, Locus of Mana maybe?
That's not a kill though, it's just a mana battery. You've got unlimited untaps here, you need to capitalize with more than a mana battery.
I believe the intent with Omnath is to get around only having infinite mana during your upkeep. Alternatively, just one-shot someone with an arbitrarily large Omnath.

I'll throw out Rocket Launcher as another potential finisher, with Goblin Cannon as a reasonable backup.

I suppose that Sands of Time also serves as tech for 'doesn't untap during your untap step' cards such as Goblin Sharpshooter and Traxos, Scourge of Kroog. Alternatively, put it in a sand tribal Hazezon Tamar deck?

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Mookie wrote:
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hmmm Omnath, Locus of Mana maybe?
That's not a kill though, it's just a mana battery. You've got unlimited untaps here, you need to capitalize with more than a mana battery.
I believe the intent with Omnath is to get around only having infinite mana during your upkeep. Alternatively, just one-shot someone with an arbitrarily large Omnath.

I'll throw out Rocket Launcher as another potential finisher, with Goblin Cannon as a reasonable backup.

I suppose that Sands of Time also serves as tech for 'doesn't untap during your untap step' cards such as Goblin Sharpshooter and Traxos, Scourge of Kroog. Alternatively, put it in a sand tribal Hazezon Tamar deck?
It's not just that, it's that Omnath only stores G while if you assembled this combo, you're able to generate any colours of your colour identity. Locking your combo to single colour is a pretty big detriment, barring yes, Rocket Launcher and it's ilk.
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Post by Hermes_ » 2 years ago

Mookie wrote:
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hmmm Omnath, Locus of Mana maybe?
That's not a kill though, it's just a mana battery. You've got unlimited untaps here, you need to capitalize with more than a mana battery.
I believe the intent with Omnath is to get around only having infinite mana during your upkeep. Alternatively, just one-shot someone with an arbitrarily large Omnath.
until they doom blade it :( but yeah i was thinking of just pumping her and killing someone unless they had a chump blocker.
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It's not just that, it's that Omnath only stores G while if you assembled this combo, you're able to generate any colours of your colour identity. Locking your combo to single colour is a pretty big detriment, barring yes, Rocket Launcher and it's ilk.
unless your plan is to do a janky combo that no one would expect... :thinking:
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Post by Serpent_Steve » 2 years ago

Before we change card for the day I would also like to mention that Sands of Time also works as a hilarious disruption piece to someone who has phased out via Teferi's Protection or other such shenanigans. If they don't have an untap step then their permanants don't phase back in. The card starred in my Vaevictus deck when Teferi's was very popular in my meta. It stopped being as popular wh nthey realised they could lock themselves out of the game accidentally.

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Post by 3drinks » 2 years ago

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Post by Hermes_ » 2 years ago

Was expecting something with Banding....
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Post by rujasu » 2 years ago

Maybe if you're mono-G or U/G, you would want that? Or if you have a lot of abilities that trigger on creatures dealing damage? If you're in black or white, you have a ton of better removal options than this.

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