Mono-White Mono-Legends - No fixed Commander

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Post by Dragonlover » 2 years ago

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So I'm very slowly doing the 32 deck challenge, and a few years ago decided to see what the options were for mono-white. Every legend basically felt like it wanted me to make some kind of white weenie deck and that the cards in the deck would work pretty much regardless of who was at the helm, which left me a bit down about the whole thing. Then my brain provided the following idea: 'If the general doesn't matter, make the deck out of all the generals!'. So I ran it past a few people to check if it was an unworkable idea or not, then spent several hours poring over the list on Gatherer. At the start of each game, I'll shuffle up and then reveal cards until I hit an eligible Commander, then shuffle for the actual game.

The non-legendary stuff basically has to feel like a legend would cast it, hence it being mostly wraths and powerful spot removal. The Retainers are both on-theme and I had one I otherwise wasn't going to use, so in it went. I'll probably be swapping the Norn's Annex for Parhelion II once I get my hands on one.

The usual route to victory is attacking people with a non-specific mass of stuff. Sometimes you voltron, sometimes you get lucky and you commander is decent enough to get in for commander damage, but usually you just lob the army at someones face.

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Post by Dragonlover » 2 years ago

For completeness' sake, M20 considerations for this deck:

Ajani, Strength of the Pride: Lifegain just isn't a major component of the deck, and I don't think I've ever reached 55 life except by accident, so the ult's kinda not relevant. Doesn't make the cut.

Sephara, Sky's Blade: That alternate cast is never happening, and one mana more gets me Avacyn, Angel of Hope. Hard pass, but would probably have made the cut on the first couple of runs of the deck.

Ajani, Inspiring Leader: Yes it's the precon one, but I like to check them just in case. Sadly this guy is just too expensive, as the abilities are pretty cool, but at 6 mana I want to be dropping actual threats.

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Post by Dragonlover » 2 years ago

Throne of Eldraine considerations:

The Circle of Loyalty: I currently have two Knights, which will at best make this a four-drop anthem that gives me a reasonably steady stream of 2/2's. Well, 3/3's I guess. I'm not really sure this is the deck for this card, but if I end up with one I'll give it a whirl.

Linden, the Steadfast Queen: I mean, a 3/3 vigilance that's on curve isn't dreadful, and the incidental lifegain is probably going to come in handy. No idea on the cut though, and again I'm not gonna worry about picking one up right away.

Syr Aylin, the Lion's Claw: It's not really doing enough at 5 mana I don't think. I mean, that's Jazal Goldmane territory.

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Post by Dragonlover » 1 year ago

Theros: Beyond Death is here, and with it a slightly delayed set review! One thing I like about checking sets for this deck is that the criteria are incredibly specific, so I only have to consider like, six or seven cards tops.

Daxos, Blessed by the Sun: That would rapidly be a near insurmountable toughness and I'm always up for a bit of incidental lifegain. On the other hand, I don't need a giant blocker and I'm really not sure what I'd cut for him. One to consider for when I trim down the planeswalker suite maybe.

Elspeth, Sun's Nemesis: I just don't see me wanting to cast it, and a lot of my other planeswalkers make guys and/or make guys bigger. The escape probably wouldn't be a problem as there's not loads of recursion, but she just doesn't excite me.

Elspeth, Undaunted Hero: Now that's more like it! Obviously the middle ability is never happening, but that ult is really sweet and will provide a way to break board stalls, which I am currently lacking. Maybe cut Gideon, Champion of Justice?

Heliod, Sun-Crowned: Yeah this is going in. Life gain, makes my guys bigger on lifegain to take advantage of all the random effects in here already, what's not to like? Probably the Iona cut tbh, I've just been exiling her when she's drawn and drawing the next card because I've been procrastinating actually taking her out.

Taranika, Akroan Veteran: I like this one, because I've got enough stuff that's just better if it's an indestructible 4/4 with pseudo-vigilance. Not a scooby on what to cut though, again a possible look to replace a planeswalker.

Nyx Lotus: I mean, there's the potential for a lot of mana here, but it'll also fold to a wrath. On the third hand it's not like I have any other ramp, so it's probably worth the punt. Maybe cut Reverse the Sands? I don't think I've ever actually cast the Reverse.

Shadowspear: Well. Not gonna complain about a source of trample in here, although no idea what I'd cut for it as my equipment suite is pretty honed by now. This might be an 'if I get it I'll try it' card.

As alluded to earlier, I'm thinking of trimming out some of the planeswalkers. Nahiri is just underwhelming as I don't have the equipment density, and at least one Ajani can probably go without too many issues.

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Post by Dragonlover » 1 year ago

Ikoria is supremely underwhelming for this deck. Why couldn't Mothra have been legendary?? Ah well, let's take a peek...

Trynn, Champion of Freedom: I mean, it's not bad per se, it's just not really doing anything and works much better with access to the partner. At 3 mana I might even have considered it, for curve purposes if nothing else.

The Ozolith: I need to check to see if I'm doing much with +1/+1 counters, cause if not the only thing I can think of here is really convoluted plays with animated Gideons, which probably aren't worth it in the long run. However if there's more +1/+1 counter stuff than I remember, it's worth a punt.

Incidentally, if you're considering trying this style of deck out I've now seen it done for all the colours except blue, and all the decks have worked to a reasonable degree, so the options are definitely there.

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Post by MeowZeDung » 1 year ago

Dragonlover wrote:
1 year ago
Ikoria is supremely underwhelming for this deck.
Same for my Daxos, Blessed by the Sun. I get a little more than you just because I'm not legendary only, but not much more.
Dragonlover wrote:
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The Ozolith: I need to check to see if I'm doing much with +1/+1 counters, cause if not the only thing I can think of here is really convoluted plays with animated Gideons, which probably aren't worth it in the long run. However if there's more +1/+1 counter stuff than I remember, it's worth a punt.
Anafenza, Mikaeus, Heliod 2.0, Ajani. Not much.
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