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Post by bravelion83 » 1 year ago

@void_nothing I don't have the time to write anything big right now, but I want to say that I and you are absolutely on the same page. We share the exact same goal, keeping ALL the contests alive and on a monthly frequence. We share a lot of the philosophy behind it. What I promise I will do on my part as long as real life allows me to, is keep hosting both the DCC and the MCC every three months, that much I can guarantee to you and all the community. If you need even more from me, please just ask. As I said, I will do my part and I will NOT allow any of the four main contests here to die no matter what I might have to do. I have all the intentions to host a DMU-themed MCC month in either September or October at the latest (obviously I'm still waiting for the story and previews to come up with challenge ideas) and also the DCC in September. I have no problems hosting both at the same time. See you all there.
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Post by void_nothing » 1 year ago

Thanks, bravelion. You know I'm always grateful for whatever you do for this forum.

I have an August MCC and CCL to get started tomorrow (and June/July threads to update) so at this point all I can do is hope for a good turnout this month.
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Post by bravelion83 » 1 year ago

For the August MCC, I think I will wait until the last minute in Round 1 to see how many entries there are. If there are many or at least enough to require a second judge (and obviously I also hope that will be the case), then I will be that second judge unless someone else volunteers before me. Otherwise, I will post a card as a player at the last minute. I will keep my options open to be ready to fill in either role, whichever might be more needed in the moment. That's why you will not see me posting a card to play right away. Just know that I'm there watching and ready to intervene at the right time.
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Post by void_nothing » 1 year ago

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Post by slimytrout » 1 year ago

Just a heads up that the June MCC finals got put in the archives without having ever been judged.

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Post by void_nothing » 1 year ago

Ouch, that was an embarrassing misclick. My judgments are going to be the only ones for those finals because Venedrex has to take a hiatus from the forums due to real-life obligations.
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Post by bravelion83 » 1 year ago

Technically, the design deadline for August Round 1 is tonight. Seeing how we only have five entries so far, I don't think a second judge will be needed unless we have a huge influx in the next 8 hours. I surely hope so, but I don't think that will be the case. Given that, I'm going to post the card I've been working on behind the scenes since the round was posted as a player right now. If for any reason a second judge will indeed be needed, I'm ready to have my entry judged as a judge entry and pivot to judging, but I don't think that will be needed. Unfortunately, I'd say. I would have preferred if I were actually needed as the second judge because it would have meant that we had more entries, but given the circumstances, for now I think I'll just play.
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Post by void_nothing » 1 year ago

Yes, given those same circumstances, I'd welcome you playing.
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Post by marioguy3 » 1 year ago

I would like to say a quick message saying I'm back for this contest! I took some time off for multiple reasons, one being that I just wasn't that successful in these contests. But now I feel good adding an entry to the round 1 August contest even if I don't succeed in the judging score.
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Post by void_nothing » 1 year ago

Congratulations to @slimytrout for winning (yes) June's MCC!
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Post by void_nothing » 1 year ago

I have a lot of catching up to do. Real life keeps getting in the way.
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Post by void_nothing » 1 year ago

Looking for an organizer for September's MCC!
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Post by slimytrout » 1 year ago

I don't know if @bravelion83 wants it for a DMU month, but if not I will do it.

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Post by void_nothing » 1 year ago

Sounds good! I'll await Leo's word as well.
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Post by bravelion83 » 1 year ago

slimytrout wrote:
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I don't know if @bravelion83 wants it for a DMU month, but if not I will do it.
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Sounds good! I'll await Leo's word as well.
Yes, I'll do it. In fact the challenges for Round 1 are already ready and I have ideas for all the rest. I was just waiting for previews to be over on Thursday to see exactly what's in the set and what not to officially claim September, but I might as well do it right now. Maybe @slimytrout can do October if he wants?
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Post by slimytrout » 1 year ago

Great! I can do October then.

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Post by void_nothing » 1 year ago

Sounds good all around.
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Post by void_nothing » 1 year ago

Also: I'm trying to get some judgments in tomorrow. Thanks everyone as always for being patient!
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Post by bravelion83 » 1 year ago

Thanks to @void_nothing for the judgment even if I'm out for August. As I often say, if I have to take risks, Round 1 is the right place to do it, worst case scenario you're out immediately and don't throw away a month of efforts. At least, this is how I see it. It means I will have more time to focus on hosting September, and of course there is still July underway. Anyway, just to show that, again as usual, nothing was by chance and all risks were calculated, I wanted to share my design notes for my submission, Saheeli. As I always do when I'm sharing design notes, the text you read is the actual unedited text I wrote as I was designing the card, which took multiple days this time. I'll translate the parts in Italian into English and my comments will be in italics. Also, I'm going to add autocard, links and mana tags.
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Saheeli, Supportive Thopterist 3UU
Legendary Planeswalker — Saheeli (M)
Exalted (Whenever a creature you control attacks alone, that creature gets +1/+1 until end of turn.)
Whenever a creature you control attacks alone, put a loyalty counter on Saheeli. If that creature is an artifact creature, put two loyalty counters on Saheeli instead.
0: Create a 1/1 colorless Thopter artifact creature token with flying. Then you may pay R. If you do, that token gains haste until end of turn.
-10: You get an emblem with "Whenever a creature you control attacks alone, you may draw two cards. If that creature is an artifact creature, you may draw three cards instead."
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The first idea came to me almost immediately: a PW with exalted. I thought that's the only card type that hasn't had a card with exalted yet, and it would have been quite splashy. Then I wrote the first draft for the abilities. I still didn't know who this planeswalker was going to be.

Exalted
create some token (that maybe can't be blocked, which would put this into blue? an artificer that creates tokens? Saheeli? Maybe she makes flying thopters and "can't be blocked" isn't even needed.)
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I'm willingly giving up S2. According to her cards, she is equally both colors. UR in Kaladesh (Saheeli Rai), {U/R} hybrid uncommon in WAR (Saheeli, Sublime Artificer), UR gold again in C18 (Saheeli, the Gifted). Three signature spells ever: 1 U 1 R 1 colorless artifact creature (a Drake, not even a Thopter or a Servo). (Respectively Saheeli's Artistry, Saheeli's Directive, and Saheeli's Silverwing.) She has never made Thopter tokens, always Servos in both WAR and C18, no tokens at all in Kaladesh.

No existing cards with exalted create tokens, let alone evasive tokens.

Exalted has never been in R except in MH1 (Goblin Champion, exalted haste) and in the rules text of Ignoble Hierarch (MH2, T: Add B, R, or G. It's the Jund mirror of Noble Hierarch). In Standard sets, exalted has never been in R, only Bant on Alara and WB in M13.

Both the last two points and exalted being on a PW, which has never been ("done", I missed a word here) before, should help a lot in Uniqueness, hopefully making up for the lost point in S2.

Is creating a flying Thopter as a +1 too strong on a 5 mana PW? There are precedents of token creation more than just a vanilla 1/1 as a + loyalty ability on a 4+ MV PW, so I'd say it could work.
https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Sear ... ate%20%22]

ATTENTION: Tezzeret from M19 has the same exact +1: make a Thopter!

I'm adding a second static ability to get her loyalty up and turn the token creation into a zero. To make her more R, I naturally thought of "pay R to give it haste", and I've only seen after the fact that this could allow me to make her mono U and satisfy S2. Is Saheeli primary U as a character or primary R? According to the Wiki, she's "centered in UR", and that makes it sound like she's equally both colors. It's true though that the R symbol in the loyalty ability makes her color IDENTITY UR even if she is mono U in the mana cost. Maybe that's fine. I'll try that. Mana cost was 3UR, now 3UU. This means the ultimate must be mono U.
Thanks for the attention and I'll see you all again as host in a few days.



EDIT September 1st - First of all, both the judge signup thread and Round 1 for September are up.

I've seen just now the judgments for July Round 3. Thanks again to void_nothing for his judgment and good luck to slimytrout for the final round. Now I'll just focus on hosting September here and in the DCC. But before that, let me share my design notes for Baunet as well, with the same caveats, I'll translate everything in English, put tags, and my comments in italics.
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Baunet, Ingenious Blacksmith 3RW
Legendary Creature — Dwarf Artificer (M)
Artifacts you control, artifact spells you control, and artifact cards you own not on the battlefield have lifelink and "Whenever this permanent, spell, or card is put into a graveyard from anywhere, you may pay 1. When you do, this card deals 1 damage to any target."
"Every piece of scrap can be useful with a little bit of inventiveness. And some aether, of course."
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Rereading the challenges, I'm asking myself: "how about something that grants abilities to ALL of those?" Why not... What's that you could give AT THE SAME TIME to artifacts on the battlefield, artifact spells, and artifact cards anywhere else? First thought was flash, but that's only meaningful for spells.

First draft (colors obviously RW given the effects):

Legendary (?) Creature — WHATEVER Artificer (R at least)
(Here R stands for "rare", not "red", this is the type line.)
Artifacts you control on the battlefield, artifact spells you control, and artifact cards you own (...anywhere else, but how is it worded exactly?) have lifelink (?) and "Whenever this (what? "object" technically, but I don't believe that's standard wording) is put into a graveyard from anywhere, CARDNAME deals 1 damage to any target. (maybe with a gating payment to avoid infinite damage loops?)"

Ok, Sanctifier en-Vec (MH2) kindly gives me the solution to the wording problem: "If a black or red permanent, spell, or card not on the battlefield would be put into a graveyard, exile it instead." Thank you! I thought: "Look at this, Leo! LOOK AT THIS!" highlighting the ability with the mouse and pointing at it with my left index finger. (Yes, I actually did that. I was really excited by this discovery.)

A dwarf from Kaladesh. (Yes, Baunet was meant to be exactly that, void_nothing got it right in his judgment. I thought the Kaladesh flavor fit perfectly here, and I wanted a red-white creature that wasn't a Human, because I actually prefer my creatures to not be Humans if possible, I know enough of them already in real life, I prefer my fantasy creatures to be something else unless necessary. And yes, in most of my custom planes and sets in my multi-year plan, which is still ongoing even if I haven't talked here about it in a long time, humans, if they are there, are usually a minority of the plane's population.)

For costing and comparison: Radiant Scrollwielder. This has one less point of toughness, is legendary, and has a mana payment in the ability, but it covers all possible sources, not only on the stack, and it's a source of repeatable damage.

The word "blacksmith" can be on a non-black card, it was even in MH2: Blacksmith's Skill

"bauna aadamee" = "dwarf" in Hindi.

(I'm cutting a part here because I talk about a real person I know, a friend and former classmate of mine in high school that I haven't heard from in years by now. Here I talk about how that Hindi expression immediately reminded me of his real surname, which happens to be quite similar, especially to the first word. Thinking back to him and the times when he was one of my best friends about fifteen years ago, I decided to slightly modify his surname and use it as the name of my card. "Baunet" is NOT his surname but it's quite close, in fact so close that if he happens to read this I'm sure he will recognize himself. Not in the card's mechanics or flavor text, those have absolutely nothing to do with him, but in the card name definitely. I don't think he's reading because as far as I know he has never played Magic and I have taught the game to several people but not to him. I don't even know if he knows about this card game we love and I can't remember if I ever even told him I play it, so I don't think he reads a forum about it, but you never know. If you're actually reading this, hi! Just know that I still do remember you after all these years and that you've been one of the best friends I've ever had, probably one of the most important people in my life, after my family of course, even if it's many years by now that we lost sight of each other.)

August 31st. (Here I'm writing after the fact, that's why I'm writing in the past tense.) A little time ago, with just a few hours left before the deadline, I realized I made a HUGE mistake! It's useless to give artifacts lifelink if then the source of the damage is Baunet himself which does NOT have lifelink. The point of the card is that the artifacts themselves are the source of the damage so that lifelink works. Either I gave lifelink to Baunet himself removing it from the artifacts, which would have not only made Subchallenge 2 not true anymore but also would have made me lose points in Uniqueness, which stangely enough for me is the best area in the whole rubric for this card in my opinion, or I changed the source of the damage. I chose this last option, putting "this card" instead of "CARDNAME" in the reflexive trigger. There saying "card" is enough because when the reflexive trigger triggers the artifact is already in the graveyard and has been there for quite some time already, wherever it comes from. Remember that "from anywhere" does NOT look back in time.
That's it. Thanks again for the attention and come join the fun in September Round 1 if you like the idea!
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Post by void_nothing » 1 year ago

There are several days left for the September MCC round 1! If you haven't entered, now is the perfect time, and also, if you have a placeholder, take care to revise it with a final entry before the deadline!
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Post by OneAndOnly » 1 year ago

Does having multikicker satisfy the "must have kicker" criterion? What about other forms of kicker?

(I'd ask the same about domain, but there aren't any official variants of it.)

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Post by bravelion83 » 1 year ago

OneAndOnly wrote:
1 year ago
Does having multikicker satisfy the "must have kicker" criterion? What about other forms of kicker?

(I'd ask the same about domain, but there aren't any official variants of it.)
You've just found a loophole. I didn't think about multikicker at all. It was NOT meant to count, I wanted it to be regular kicker. But the CR beg to differ and multikicker does indeed count as kicker:
CR (DMU) wrote: 702.33. Kicker
(...)
702.33c Multikicker is a variant of the kicker ability. "Multikicker [cost]" means "You may pay an additional [cost] any number of times as you cast this spell." A multikicker cost is a kicker cost.
Well, the last sentence leaves no doubt about it. Yes, it counts, but no other variants of either kicker or domain are allowed as they're not in the CR, multikicker is the only one that is there and so it's the only one that counts.
Beware that, as I've said right above the quote, I did NOT want it to count either. I wanted the players to use kicker in the same way as it's used in DMU. In summary, if you use multikicker instead of regular kicker, you're violating the spirit of the challenge even though not the letter of it, so your card will not be DQ'ed but might receive a deduction in the Main Challenge section. This is exactly why that section is there, and I know it as I am one of the two people who created the current rubric (I haven't seen the other one around here in quite some time so they might not even be active anymore) and I was the one to advocate for the introduction of that section exactly for cases where the challenge is met in letter but not in spirit.
If you use any other variant of either kicker or domain that is not multikicker, including custom ones, at the contrary, you're violating both the spirit and the letter of the challenge and your card WILL be DQ'ed. So be careful as you're walking on a thin line here. I'm adding this to the clarifications spoiler right now.

On second reading, I hope this doesn't sound harsher than I mean, it's just meant to be a detailed explanation of my decision as host and nothing more. It wasn't my intention to offend or hurt the feelings of anybody in any way, so if I did, I apologize.
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Post by void_nothing » 1 year ago

Congrats to the winner of July's MCC, @slimytrout!
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Post by haywire » 1 year ago

congrats @slimytrout !

@void_nothing just a question on the final judgement, it doesn't affect the outcome or anything, but just had some questions on the quality deducation for my entry.

Isn't the most current wording for creating attacking token copies of creatures "tapped and attacking token"? As seen in Runo Stromkirk // Krothuss, Lord of the Deep, Delina, Wild Mage and Phantom Steed. I was under the impression that in the specific case where the tokens are a) entering attacking and b) copies, then this formatting is the new preferred and accepted style.

and additionally, what is wrong with nonartifact? it has been used as recently as Double Masters 22 with Go for the Throat.

I super appreciate you taking your time to host these contests and judge them, and not trying to be argumentative, just want to know why I got these deductions so I can avoid them in the future.
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Post by void_nothing » 1 year ago

Oh, "tapped and attacking tokens" IS fine, it just should be "three tokens" and not "3 tokens".
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