What reprints would you put in Pioneer Horizons?

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Post by The Fluff » 4 months ago

Sakura tribe elder for some good mana fixing? There's no decent fetch lands in this format, so the elder would help a lot.
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Post by Card Slinger J » 4 months ago

Maybe reprint the Allied colored Fastlands from Scars of Mirrodin?
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Post by The Fluff » 4 months ago

reprinting the allied fastlands would certainly help in color fixing.
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Post by motleyslayer » 4 months ago

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Sakura tribe elder for some good mana fixing? There's no decent fetch lands in this format, so the elder would help a lot.
sakura tribe elder would probably be fine in the format but it seems super hard to fit into the format without a "pioneer horizons" type set or going back to Kamigawa

I think it would be super sweet mana fixing though

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Post by The Fluff » 4 months ago

if there's going to be a core set, they could fit him there too.

yeah, it would provide some nice mana fixing. Might help give rise to some decks in this format.
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Post by motleyslayer » 3 months ago

Celestial Purge and Electrolyze would be interesting inclusions in the format. I can't see them breaking much

I'd actually just like to see some kind of 1 mana white removal, Path is probably too good but there are probably options like Condemn

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Post by Cyanu » 3 months ago

can we get the 'no thanks' option? after the travesty of modern horizons i really would not feel comfortable with a similar set in pioneer

1)the power level of such sets is way too high, the slightest mistake will lead to layers of 'brokeness' and entire cycles of bannings that will possible cost us current staples as well, not to mention that the format will be terrible for months to come (see Hoggak → Urza)

2)again the drastic increase in power level would violently shift the format's identity towards artifical archetypes with no continuity, for example i wouldn't wish pioneer to suddenly become all about snow, or all about artifacts etc

3)the monetary cost is simply too high, pioneer other than a couple of decks that overlap with standard/modern and are really expensive as a result remains a largely accessible format, a horizons set would mean the inclusion of W6 class mythics that practically mean that if you want to continue playing your deck you might suddenly be called to spend an extra 200+ euros/dollars/pounds whatever... now imagive if somehow you can slot multiple new staples into your deck... the price increase would be dramatic

pioneer masters sounds less likely to blow the format up and makes it cheaper instead of more expensive, sounds better right?

that doesn't mean i wouldn't want reprints into the format but:

1)absolutely NOTHING that costs 0 mana, no 0 mana spells, no 0 mana artifacts, no 0 mana cyclers, NOTHING!
2)no fetchlands (and generally things that end up in the gy too easily, breaking mechanics like delve)
3)no combo enablers/pieces/generic consistency tools like SV/ancient stirrings etc
4)nothing related to ramp/fast mana/mana ritual etc
5)no bolts, rdw is much more interesting when it's a 'normal' aggro instaed of a completely uninteractive reach based aggro(some even call it combo but whatever)
6)no prison cards!
7)no idiotic color hate! (boil/choke/veil of summer etc)

those are my personal red lines, beyond those answers, midrangey threats, allied color fastlands/manlands, grindy planewalkers etv could all be cool additions to the format, big preference to higher cmcs, it would be cool to have a nonrotating format in which decks actually have a normal curve for a change, instaed of everything being at 0-2 cmc and alternative costs that are practically played by tapping 0-2 lands...

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Post by if4ko » 3 months ago

Angel's Grace seems cool.

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Post by The Fluff » 1 month ago

a reprint of vampire hounds, one more addition to dog tribal.
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Post by RxPhantom » 1 month ago

i really thought Honor of the Pure was in Pioneer. I was wrong and subsequently disappointed.
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Post by The Fluff » 4 days ago

How about Spinning Darkness and Contagion? Or are these alternate cost cards too strong for Pioneer?
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