[Poll] Is Opt better than Serum Visions?

which one do you usually use in your deck?

Serum Visions
3
30%
Opt
5
50%
use both visions and opt
2
20%
 
Total votes: 10

User avatar
The Fluff
hell kitty
Posts: 626
Joined: 4 months ago
Pronoun: Unlisted
Location: Cape Suzette
Has thanked: 33 times
Been thanked: 25 times
Contact:

Post by The Fluff » 5 days ago

Hi, I've been on a friendly debate on this topic with a friend. As we are building a few decks that make use of these cards.

If you would have to pick, which would you prefer to use in a ub or esper draw-go type of deck?
Expand Signature
Image
OE 2016 // POF 2018 // Super Bunny Man // Rachie
want to play a uw control deck in modern, but don't have Jace or snapcaster? please come visit us at the Emeria thread

User avatar
MashedPotato
Posts: 40
Joined: 4 months ago
Pronoun: Unlisted
Location: Australia
Has thanked: 2 times

Post by MashedPotato » 5 days ago

I played a split in Epser Draw-Go for a long time, lately switched into Thoughtscour to support Drown in the Loch (just to provide some support to my answer)

I see Opt as - Draw the card you want.
Serum Visions - Draw a random card, setup next draw or two.

Irregardless of Sorc vs Instant speed, Modern isn't tap out unlike Standard, so open mana isn't as much as of a concern (to an extent)

All of the above is just to support my split choice.

User avatar
AvalonAurora
Posts: 22
Joined: 3 months ago
Pronoun: they / them
Has thanked: 3 times
Been thanked: 3 times

Post by AvalonAurora » 5 days ago

In a draw-go type deck, with more counterspells in it, I'd lean towards opt, but if it's got sorcery discard more than counterspells, I'd lean more towards serum visions.

In a non-draw-go type deck, like, say, a combo deck, I'd lean towards serum visions for an all-out combo as fast as possible type setup, while I'd lean towards opt for a somewhat more defensive, protect your combo and have something of a tempo backup type setup (so long as the tempo stuff and combo protection, or combo pieces themselves, is at least somewhat instant speed).

If deck has room, I'd strongly consider both, depending on the curve.

User avatar
The Fluff
hell kitty
Posts: 626
Joined: 4 months ago
Pronoun: Unlisted
Location: Cape Suzette
Has thanked: 33 times
Been thanked: 25 times
Contact:

Post by The Fluff » 5 days ago

@MashedPotato

hmm, I see. thanks for sharing your experience on opt and visions.

well, scour does make a good support for drown in the loch.

@AvalonAurora

thanks for all the advice. Ok, I'll remember those. :)
Expand Signature
Image
OE 2016 // POF 2018 // Super Bunny Man // Rachie
want to play a uw control deck in modern, but don't have Jace or snapcaster? please come visit us at the Emeria thread

User avatar
cfusionpm
With that on the stack...
Posts: 407
Joined: 4 months ago
Pronoun: he / him
Location: California, USA
Has thanked: 107 times
Been thanked: 80 times
Contact:

Post by cfusionpm » 3 days ago

Opt is a card that borders between OK to terrible. It's often the worst cantrip in the deck, and only ever played if a deck wants to cantrip at instant speed, and doesn't want to fuel its graveyard.

Serum isn't awesome, but the Scry 2 can be super helpful at pretty much any point in the game.
Expand Signature
Image
Ojutai Stax . Yarok ETBs . Teysa Combo . Zacama Dinos . Nekusar Control . Varina Zombies . Niv-Mizzet Spells

pokken
Posts: 543
Joined: 4 months ago
Pronoun: he / him
Has thanked: 153 times
Been thanked: 94 times

Titles & Recognition

Post by pokken » 1 day ago

Serum Visions is far, far better early in the game in my opinion. It's significantly more likely to fix your land situation which is the #1 thing I look for in a cantrip--letting me keep 1-2 land hands. 1 land with an Opt can be a death sentence.

Given how much of modern is decided in early turns it surprises me to see opt seeing so much play, although it is quite nice to snap-opt late games.

User avatar
robertleva
Posts: 140
Joined: 4 months ago
Pronoun: Unlisted
Has thanked: 43 times
Been thanked: 31 times

Post by robertleva » 23 hours ago

It's a great question and discussion.

I voted Opt because ultimately it's more universal. Serum's effect is much better but the sorcery speed makes it inferior on early turns. Make no mistake, Opt is worse at hand fixing, but having the option to counter a spell / remove a critter that your opponent might play next turn is crucial. Late game when you have so much land that it no longer matters Serum is clearly better, but it's more important to have hand fixing early.
Expand Signature
Robert Leva
Creator of Modern's 8Rack Deck
Image

User avatar
The Fluff
hell kitty
Posts: 626
Joined: 4 months ago
Pronoun: Unlisted
Location: Cape Suzette
Has thanked: 33 times
Been thanked: 25 times
Contact:

Post by The Fluff » 5 hours ago

nice opinions on the two cards. thanks to everyone who put their two cents here. :)

by the current looks of the poll. Opt seems to be the popular choice.
Expand Signature
Image
OE 2016 // POF 2018 // Super Bunny Man // Rachie
want to play a uw control deck in modern, but don't have Jace or snapcaster? please come visit us at the Emeria thread

Post Reply Previous topicNext topic

Return to “Modern”