gkourou wrote: ↑
1 year ago
ktkenshinx wrote: ↑
1 year ago
gkourou wrote: ↑
1 year ago
It's a positive thing that multiple people openly express their concerns about Modern, being in a bad shape. Pioneer dredged those issues, indeed. It's the broken format, where more bans will keep hapenning. 2019 is not the only thing to blame in Modern. In fact, I consider this a terrible statement. It's the large card pool. It's 8th/9th edition, it's some cards from Mirrodin, or other weird sets that is the problem.
I'm going to continue to push back against this suggestion that Modern is "THE broken format," as you said. Modern is just more obviously broken than other formats because a) games are literally ending earlier because decks are faster, and b) veteran Moderners (and jaded Moderners) are more inclined to concede games and recognize they are over. But Modern is just one of many broken, profoundly wrecked contemporary formats. Standard, Brawl, Historic, and Pioneer will all continue to face similar issues both now and in the future due to bad decisions at the design/dev/testing level. Since 2017, Modern has seen six bans (GGT, Probe, KCI, Bridge, Hogaak, Looting). Since 2017, Standard has seen 13 (!!) bans, 14 if you count Nexus in BO1 Arena. If anything, Standard is "THE" broken format of the last two years. More bans are not going to solve this issue, and more ban soundbytes on social media won't solve it either. Content creators and players need to be outraged about the design-level issues that create these problems, not the after-the-fact bandages.
I am pushing back your logic as well, which in my opinion, is just wrong and missing a lot of information.
If anything, and going by your logic, Modern is the ban format for ages now, some of those, such as Twin, unnecessary ones. How many bans did we see each year? And we all know there is a chance the colourless decks receive another one right now. The problem with your logic is that you are including two years, which were horrendous for Standard. It's greatly positioned now, and tbh, a beautiful and fair format. At the moment, if you bring a Standard player to Modern, and give him to experience the T3 Karns, T2 5/5's after TS with Denial, T3 Titans, and mainly T3 infinite thopters, he will be highly disappointed from the format. You know why? Because the more unfair play in Standard atm is T4 play fires of invention, play a teferi and something else, go.
But, I won't continue with that comparison, as I think it's wrong to the very core of it.
If you can't notice the difference between those two formats, we will have to settle to "agree to disagree".
Obviously Modern is the format to play the strongest cards, but enough is enough. As cfusionpm
, even if Twin was unbanned, it would just be another deck in a sea of unfair decks, and combos. That's what Modern is.
Once, you could play fair decks, and those kind of decks were at like 50% of the meta. It's something like 20% now.
I guess there is Pioneer for us that does not want to lose to a T3 Karn or T2-3 TKS to a super lopsided matchup.
Imo, Modern is full of those lopsided matchups at the moment. It's also super unfair and completely broken, to the point no control can exist in Tier 1. At the MCM series somebody posted, an E-Tron player just went T3 Karn - T4 Mycosynth Lattice and stole the game out of the opponent that way. The game lasted 3 minutes. It was this. Just this.
Anyway, I can't keep up with this conversation. If you like Modern at the moment, it's your right. Just note that I was the one that usually defended Modern from anyone that was bashing it. Sorry, I would be a hypocrite to keep doing it, while I think the format is in such a terrible state.
I guess whoever doesn't like Modern now, should just go play Pioneer instead. I would like to see Twin and Pod unbanned, but I guess one can dream. They think those decks would be better than the current Urza deck. Sadly, no.