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Post by Serenade » 5 months ago

I like that this character on Decisive Denial later had a worse day when it went to the Cursed Mirror.

(Do we know who or what that is?)
Mirri, Cat Warrior counts as a Cat Warrior.

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Post by DirkGently » 5 months ago

There's something funny about the fact that "DECISIVE" denial is a soft counterspell stapled onto a soft removal spell. Doesn't seem very decisive...
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Lukka - Sefris - Ebondeath - Rokiric - Garth - Nixilis - Grist - Mavinda - Kumano - Nezahal - Mavinda - Plargg - Plargg - Extus - Plargg - Oracle - Kardur - Halvar - Tergrid - Egon - Cosima - Halana+Livio - Jeska+Falthis+Obosh - Yeva - Akiri+Zirda - Lady Sun - Nahiri - Korlash - Overlord+Zirda - Chisei - Athreos2 - Akim - Cazur+Ukkima - Otrimi - Otrimi - Kalamax - Ayli+Lurrus - Clamilton - Gonti - Heliod2 - Ayula - Thassa2 - Gallia - Purphoros2 - Rankle - Uro - Rayami - Gargos - Thrasios+Bruse - Pang - Sasaya - Wydwen - Feather - Rona - Toshiro - Sylvia+Khorvath - Geth - QMarchesa - Firesong - Athreos - Arixmethes - Isperia - Etali - Silas+Sidar - Saskia - Virtus+Gorm - Kynaios - Naban - Aryel - Mizzix - Kazuul - Tymna+Kraum - Sidar+Tymna - Ayli - Gwendlyn - Phelddagrif - Liliana - Kaervek - Phelddagrif - Mairsil - Scarab - Child - Phenax - Shirei - Thada - Depala - Circu - Kytheon - GrenzoHR - Phelddagrif - Reyhan+Kraum - Toshiro - Varolz - Nin - Ojutai - Tasigur - Zedruu - Uril - Edric - Wort - Zurgo - Nahiri - Grenzo - Kozilek - Yisan - Ink-Treader - Yisan - Brago - Sidisi - Toshiro - Alexi - Sygg - Brimaz - Sek'Kuar - Marchesa - Vish Kal - Iroas - Phelddagrif - Ephara - Derevi - Glissa - Wanderer - Saffi - Melek - Xiahou Dun - Lazav - Lin Sivvi - Zirilan - Glissa - Ashling1 - Angus - Arcum - Talrand - Chainer - Higure - Kumano - Scion - Teferi1 - Uyo - Sisters
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Post by capitacommunist » 5 months ago

DirkGently wrote:
5 months ago
I kind of love the flavor of Monologue Tax. Oh my god, some people with their %$#%$#% eternal turns...
From the flavor side it is very disappointing that it does not trigger for spells after the second. The way it's written you will likely only get 1-2 treasures out of it per turn cycle, at which point it's only on par with some of the better 3 cmc mana rocks with higher uncertainty. Unless your white deck itself is looking to play 2+ spells per turn, I would stick to Rule of Law.

I'm excited for Alibou, Ancient Witness though. I think it will be an interesting build to find the right combination of artifacts to tap and artifact creatures to attack with to maximize the damage. Hitting another player for ten and scrying for ten seems quite within the realms of possibility.

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Post by ilovesaprolings » 5 months ago

Serenade wrote:
5 months ago
I like that this character on Decisive Denial later had a worse day when it went to the Cursed Mirror.

(Do we know who or what that is?)
I think it's just the Oriq who tried to recruit Zimone

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Post by Cyberium » 5 months ago

DirkGently wrote:
5 months ago
I kind of love the flavor of Monologue Tax. Oh my god, some people with their %$#%$#% eternal turns...

It's also way better design for time-saving than stupid smothering tithe. "Do you pay, do you pay, do you pay?" Let's keep triggers that require input from opponents to a minimum, thanks.
But since you only create one treasure with Monologue Tax, I'd argue the punishment is not severe enough against those eternal turn bastards. I guess that's what Strict Proctor is for, at least against the trigger-combo dude.

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Post by Vessiliana » 5 months ago

TheAmericanSpirit wrote:
5 months ago

I'm intrigued as to why Hofri Ghostforge didn't make your list, he seems like the strongest option in a vacuum. The only factpr holding me off him is his (imo) god awful art...

Edit: he really does look like a tiny Steven Seagal if you squint...
I was so, so disappointed in that art. I loved the theme and mechanics of it, but it was just so hideous that I couldn't bring myself to do it.

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Post by kirkusjones » 5 months ago

Vessiliana wrote:
5 months ago
TheAmericanSpirit wrote:
5 months ago

I'm intrigued as to why Hofri Ghostforge didn't make your list, he seems like the strongest option in a vacuum. The only factpr holding me off him is his (imo) god awful art...

Edit: he really does look like a tiny Steven Seagal if you squint...
I was so, so disappointed in that art. I loved the theme and mechanics of it, but it was just so hideous that I couldn't bring myself to do it.
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Post by DirkGently » 5 months ago

kirkusjones wrote:
5 months ago
Coming soon to VHS: They killed his master. They killed his family. They killed his best friend. They even killed his career. But he's getting them all back. Steven Seagal is...HOFRI GHOSTFORGE
Creature - Spirit Master
Creature - Spirit Family
Creature - Spirit Career

Hey, he's already got the last one.
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Lukka - Sefris - Ebondeath - Rokiric - Garth - Nixilis - Grist - Mavinda - Kumano - Nezahal - Mavinda - Plargg - Plargg - Extus - Plargg - Oracle - Kardur - Halvar - Tergrid - Egon - Cosima - Halana+Livio - Jeska+Falthis+Obosh - Yeva - Akiri+Zirda - Lady Sun - Nahiri - Korlash - Overlord+Zirda - Chisei - Athreos2 - Akim - Cazur+Ukkima - Otrimi - Otrimi - Kalamax - Ayli+Lurrus - Clamilton - Gonti - Heliod2 - Ayula - Thassa2 - Gallia - Purphoros2 - Rankle - Uro - Rayami - Gargos - Thrasios+Bruse - Pang - Sasaya - Wydwen - Feather - Rona - Toshiro - Sylvia+Khorvath - Geth - QMarchesa - Firesong - Athreos - Arixmethes - Isperia - Etali - Silas+Sidar - Saskia - Virtus+Gorm - Kynaios - Naban - Aryel - Mizzix - Kazuul - Tymna+Kraum - Sidar+Tymna - Ayli - Gwendlyn - Phelddagrif - Liliana - Kaervek - Phelddagrif - Mairsil - Scarab - Child - Phenax - Shirei - Thada - Depala - Circu - Kytheon - GrenzoHR - Phelddagrif - Reyhan+Kraum - Toshiro - Varolz - Nin - Ojutai - Tasigur - Zedruu - Uril - Edric - Wort - Zurgo - Nahiri - Grenzo - Kozilek - Yisan - Ink-Treader - Yisan - Brago - Sidisi - Toshiro - Alexi - Sygg - Brimaz - Sek'Kuar - Marchesa - Vish Kal - Iroas - Phelddagrif - Ephara - Derevi - Glissa - Wanderer - Saffi - Melek - Xiahou Dun - Lazav - Lin Sivvi - Zirilan - Glissa - Ashling1 - Angus - Arcum - Talrand - Chainer - Higure - Kumano - Scion - Teferi1 - Uyo - Sisters
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Post by tempoEDH » 5 months ago

I honestly love all the attention and new toys that RW (not calling it boros because those days are long over) has gotten in commander. It's been a pretty lackluster combination for a very long time, as I'm sure has been repeated several times, so I won't go into detail on why (we all know lol). They started pushing the package with things like Feather, the Redeemed, but it still kind of limited options. Now with this set, it feels kind of like they finally gave up and just decided to let the RW commander players have their fun (no complaints here). While I haven't looked deep enough into the set to decide, on the surface I like the idea of Hofri Ghostforge and Osgir, the Reconstructor. Other thoughts so far, potential goldfish deck with Audacious Reshapers and an artifact creature in the command zone (Breya, that artifact partner from commander legends+whatever other color you want, etc..) and your typical goldfish style deck with only 2 artifacts in it (or one that goes infinite with the aforementioned artifact commander, but so far I don't think there are any artifact legendary creatures that have a 2 card combo with another artifact in red). Not sure if that's really that great though. Overall quite happy with the set so far.
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Post by DirkGently » 5 months ago

tempoEDH wrote:
5 months ago
Other thoughts so far, potential goldfish deck with Audacious Reshapers and an artifact creature in the command zone (Breya, that artifact partner from commander legends+whatever other color you want, etc..) and your typical goldfish style deck with only 2 artifacts in it (or one that goes infinite with the aforementioned artifact commander, but so far I don't think there are any artifact legendary creatures that have a 2 card combo with another artifact in red). Not sure if that's really that great though.
...But won't you just kill yourself?

I share the enthusiasm for Boros branching out a bit (while still, imo, feeling Boros...and I'm sorry but it's still Boros. Boros now, Boros forever). I think Plargg, Dean of Chaos is the most enticing of the new commanders though tbh. So many different ways to build him. yum yum get in my tummy. :drool:
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Lukka - Sefris - Ebondeath - Rokiric - Garth - Nixilis - Grist - Mavinda - Kumano - Nezahal - Mavinda - Plargg - Plargg - Extus - Plargg - Oracle - Kardur - Halvar - Tergrid - Egon - Cosima - Halana+Livio - Jeska+Falthis+Obosh - Yeva - Akiri+Zirda - Lady Sun - Nahiri - Korlash - Overlord+Zirda - Chisei - Athreos2 - Akim - Cazur+Ukkima - Otrimi - Otrimi - Kalamax - Ayli+Lurrus - Clamilton - Gonti - Heliod2 - Ayula - Thassa2 - Gallia - Purphoros2 - Rankle - Uro - Rayami - Gargos - Thrasios+Bruse - Pang - Sasaya - Wydwen - Feather - Rona - Toshiro - Sylvia+Khorvath - Geth - QMarchesa - Firesong - Athreos - Arixmethes - Isperia - Etali - Silas+Sidar - Saskia - Virtus+Gorm - Kynaios - Naban - Aryel - Mizzix - Kazuul - Tymna+Kraum - Sidar+Tymna - Ayli - Gwendlyn - Phelddagrif - Liliana - Kaervek - Phelddagrif - Mairsil - Scarab - Child - Phenax - Shirei - Thada - Depala - Circu - Kytheon - GrenzoHR - Phelddagrif - Reyhan+Kraum - Toshiro - Varolz - Nin - Ojutai - Tasigur - Zedruu - Uril - Edric - Wort - Zurgo - Nahiri - Grenzo - Kozilek - Yisan - Ink-Treader - Yisan - Brago - Sidisi - Toshiro - Alexi - Sygg - Brimaz - Sek'Kuar - Marchesa - Vish Kal - Iroas - Phelddagrif - Ephara - Derevi - Glissa - Wanderer - Saffi - Melek - Xiahou Dun - Lazav - Lin Sivvi - Zirilan - Glissa - Ashling1 - Angus - Arcum - Talrand - Chainer - Higure - Kumano - Scion - Teferi1 - Uyo - Sisters
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Post by Wallycaine » 5 months ago

DirkGently wrote:
5 months ago
tempoEDH wrote:
5 months ago
Other thoughts so far, potential goldfish deck with Audacious Reshapers and an artifact creature in the command zone (Breya, that artifact partner from commander legends+whatever other color you want, etc..) and your typical goldfish style deck with only 2 artifacts in it (or one that goes infinite with the aforementioned artifact commander, but so far I don't think there are any artifact legendary creatures that have a 2 card combo with another artifact in red). Not sure if that's really that great though.
...But won't you just kill yourself?
Not if the artifact you hit is Lich's Mirror!

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Post by DirkGently » 5 months ago

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Not if the artifact you hit is Lich's Mirror!
Well, or Platinum Emperion (or I guess Platinum Angel, though that seems a bit tenuous). But I'm not aware of any particularly effective combos with any of those. I guess fetching up emperion as an instant would be kinda funny as a fog, idk that it's worth the convolution, though.
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PDH - Drake - Graverobber - Izzet GM - Tallowisp - Symbiote
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Post by Wallycaine » 5 months ago

DirkGently wrote:
5 months ago
Wallycaine wrote:
5 months ago
Not if the artifact you hit is Lich's Mirror!
Well, or Platinum Emperion (or I guess Platinum Angel, though that seems a bit tenuous). But I'm not aware of any particularly effective combos with any of those. I guess fetching up emperion as an instant would be kinda funny as a fog, idk that it's worth the convolution, though.
Oh yeah, those would be more useful. And yeah, the only Lich's mirror combos I know of involve it not being *your* mirror, and just lock the game in a death spiral (Control a Lich's Mirror that you don't own. Die to a state based action that's not being at 0 life/drawing from an empty deck. Continuously set your life to twenty, draw seven cards, and then die again, trapped in an eternal state of nothingness between life and death in which you cannot perform actions but also cannot die). But it would be funny to have someone "combo off" just to... do nothing relevant.

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Post by DirkGently » 5 months ago

Those combos are hilarious, but unless you get lucky and the mirror is in the top half of your deck, you'll just end up shuffling it immediately back in before you can donate it lol. Which is, as you point out, hilarious, but I can't think of any real way to exploit it off the top of my head...

Man, Lich's Mirror has to be among the worst mythics, if not the worst mythic, of all time. People give Archangel's Light a lot of guff, but as far as life-extension tools, at least it doesn't reset your board and expect you to beat a fully-operational opponent.
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Lukka - Sefris - Ebondeath - Rokiric - Garth - Nixilis - Grist - Mavinda - Kumano - Nezahal - Mavinda - Plargg - Plargg - Extus - Plargg - Oracle - Kardur - Halvar - Tergrid - Egon - Cosima - Halana+Livio - Jeska+Falthis+Obosh - Yeva - Akiri+Zirda - Lady Sun - Nahiri - Korlash - Overlord+Zirda - Chisei - Athreos2 - Akim - Cazur+Ukkima - Otrimi - Otrimi - Kalamax - Ayli+Lurrus - Clamilton - Gonti - Heliod2 - Ayula - Thassa2 - Gallia - Purphoros2 - Rankle - Uro - Rayami - Gargos - Thrasios+Bruse - Pang - Sasaya - Wydwen - Feather - Rona - Toshiro - Sylvia+Khorvath - Geth - QMarchesa - Firesong - Athreos - Arixmethes - Isperia - Etali - Silas+Sidar - Saskia - Virtus+Gorm - Kynaios - Naban - Aryel - Mizzix - Kazuul - Tymna+Kraum - Sidar+Tymna - Ayli - Gwendlyn - Phelddagrif - Liliana - Kaervek - Phelddagrif - Mairsil - Scarab - Child - Phenax - Shirei - Thada - Depala - Circu - Kytheon - GrenzoHR - Phelddagrif - Reyhan+Kraum - Toshiro - Varolz - Nin - Ojutai - Tasigur - Zedruu - Uril - Edric - Wort - Zurgo - Nahiri - Grenzo - Kozilek - Yisan - Ink-Treader - Yisan - Brago - Sidisi - Toshiro - Alexi - Sygg - Brimaz - Sek'Kuar - Marchesa - Vish Kal - Iroas - Phelddagrif - Ephara - Derevi - Glissa - Wanderer - Saffi - Melek - Xiahou Dun - Lazav - Lin Sivvi - Zirilan - Glissa - Ashling1 - Angus - Arcum - Talrand - Chainer - Higure - Kumano - Scion - Teferi1 - Uyo - Sisters
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Post by Crazy Monkey » 5 months ago

Wallycaine wrote:
5 months ago
DirkGently wrote:
5 months ago
tempoEDH wrote:
5 months ago
Other thoughts so far, potential goldfish deck with Audacious Reshapers and an artifact creature in the command zone (Breya, that artifact partner from commander legends+whatever other color you want, etc..) and your typical goldfish style deck with only 2 artifacts in it (or one that goes infinite with the aforementioned artifact commander, but so far I don't think there are any artifact legendary creatures that have a 2 card combo with another artifact in red). Not sure if that's really that great though.
...But won't you just kill yourself?
Not if the artifact you hit is Lich's Mirror!
Alternatively, give Audacious Reshapers lifelink.
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Post by bobthefunny » 5 months ago

DirkGently wrote:
5 months ago
tempoEDH wrote:
5 months ago
Other thoughts so far, potential goldfish deck with Audacious Reshapers and an artifact creature in the command zone (Breya, that artifact partner from commander legends+whatever other color you want, etc..) and your typical goldfish style deck with only 2 artifacts in it (or one that goes infinite with the aforementioned artifact commander, but so far I don't think there are any artifact legendary creatures that have a 2 card combo with another artifact in red). Not sure if that's really that great though.
...But won't you just kill yourself?

I share the enthusiasm for Boros branching out a bit (while still, imo, feeling Boros...and I'm sorry but it's still Boros. Boros now, Boros forever). I think Plargg, Dean of Chaos is the most enticing of the new commanders though tbh. So many different ways to build him. yum yum get in my tummy. :drool:
1) Angel's Grace
2) Sharuum combos with Sculpting Steel, but you'd need another non-artifact payoff card, and Sharuum can't run the Reshapers.
Crazy Monkey wrote:
5 months ago
Alternatively, give Audacious Reshapers lifelink.
Better yet, give it lifelink AND Spirit Link, with zero artifacts in the deck, and just sac treasure tokens! Gain life equal to deck size every activation!

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Post by pokken » 5 months ago

Wow some of those instant sorcery bombs are out of control.
Radiant Performer - radiate on a creature? Youch. I think it probably goes infinite with all the dualcaster stuff and also does the same crazy stuff Radiate already does (like Reap and Sow the entire board).
Surge to Victory pretty much pseudo-infinite combos with any extra combat step spell (and basically the same with extra turn spells since taking 4 or 5 extra turns is prety much GG). (while also nearly craterhoofing)

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Post by Sporegorger_Dragon » 5 months ago

Ok, ok, Prismari, we get it, you're awesome and not Izzet at all, just calm down.

Man some Prismari guy on the Commander team had something to prove.

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Post by Cyberium » 5 months ago

As expected, I hate magecraft even more with the Prismari deck. All that copy triggers is going to be hell to memorize. Why in the world would they allow magecraft to trigger upon copying?

I do appreciate more variants on the re-suspend cards though.

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Post by Serenade » 5 months ago

Epic Experiment is better than Muse Vortex, right?
Mirri, Cat Warrior counts as a Cat Warrior.

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Post by Wallycaine » 5 months ago

Serenade wrote:
5 months ago
Epic Experiment is better than Muse Vortex, right?
Muse Vortex has basically 2 main things in its favor: It doesn't care about the Mana Value of the other instants and sorceries, so it's much better at low values to just draw a few cards and maybe get a free spell, and it works better with spells that have more conditional timing, like counterspells. I guess another note would be that it works better with other X spells, since Epic Experiment can't do anything interesting with them, where the Vortex puts them in hand. Overall, it ends up slightly more versatile at the cost of giving up some of the explosive power level.

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Post by Rumpy5897 » 5 months ago

Rionya, Fire Dancer is a card that should make me happy. It's essentially a second Kiki for my Ghired deck. Thing is, it shouldn't be - the very reason why I get to run it is what's off about the card. That dreaded little "one plus" in the text. This feels like a narrow piece that rewards your deck for running both spells and copy-worthy creatures, but then sticks the "one plus" in there and you've got a freaking 95%-of-value-Kiki floor on the card.

This is not the first time this has happened recently. For instance, Goldspan Dragon has too much going on. In practice, the haste pushes it over the top, but it's entirely possible that even more of the text shouldn't have been there. Tergrid, God of Fright is another recent example - did this really need to be an infinite mana gg sink on the back?

I'm sure there's more, these come to mind. Cards that just have a little bit too much stuff stuck in there, that "one plus" too far, and feel like they end up too good at what they do as the result. Credit where credit is due, these are more narrow than the great powercreep of 2019, but I feel my point is still somewhat valid.
 
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Post by JWK » 5 months ago

pokken wrote:
5 months ago
Wow some of those instant sorcery bombs are out of control.
Radiant Performer - radiate on a creature? Youch. I think it probably goes infinite with all the dualcaster stuff and also does the same crazy stuff Radiate already does (like Reap and Sow the entire board).
Surge to Victory pretty much pseudo-infinite combos with any extra combat step spell (and basically the same with extra turn spells since taking 4 or 5 extra turns is prety much GG). (while also nearly craterhoofing)
Those are insanely good.
I have 68 active EDH decks, with more in progress. I don't consider this a problem. Do you?
I am also one of those barbarians who enjoys winning by turning creatures sideways.

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Post by Serenade » 5 months ago

Wallycaine wrote:
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Epic Experiment is better than Muse Vortex, right?
Muse Vortex has basically 2 main things in its favor: It doesn't care about the Mana Value of the other instants and sorceries, so it's much better at low values to just draw a few cards and maybe get a free spell, and it works better with spells that have more conditional timing, like counterspells. I guess another note would be that it works better with other X spells, since Epic Experiment can't do anything interesting with them, where the Vortex puts them in hand. Overall, it ends up slightly more versatile at the cost of giving up some of the explosive power level.
Ah, thank you! I was getting hung up on not using the GY like EE. The other X spells point is highly relevant. Muse Vortex might be worth trying for my Kess deck.
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Post by illakunsaa » 5 months ago

The reprints are so bad. There isn't a single card in the izzet deck that is over 3 euros.

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