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Found this cool alter on pintrest
I'd like a whole deck where all the creature cards look something like this. Such a cool look for the card. I wish I could paint well enough to make things look this way.
I mean that alter is done by the best alterist in the business Eric Klug so there is that.
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Post by cryogen » 1 year ago

Well this set has been a sneaky snek and is slowly gaining my interest. I'm definitely going to build something, I just don't know what. Azban and Sultai are out because I've gone that route enough, so I'm torn between Surgeon General Commander gimmick mutate tribal and Jeskai - either Brallin, Skyshark Rider / Shabraz, the Skyshark wheels (which is probably what everyone else will do) or Vadrok, Apex of Thunder. Whatever I decide, I think I want to use as many cards from Ikoria and C20 as possible.
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Post by Segrus » 1 year ago

Ulka wrote:
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Segrus wrote:
1 year ago
Hermes_ wrote:
1 year ago
Found this cool alter on pintrest
I'd like a whole deck where all the creature cards look something like this. Such a cool look for the card. I wish I could paint well enough to make things look this way.
I mean that alter is done by the best alterist in the business Eric Klug so there is that.
I didn't actually know that, but I mean my point still stands--I wish I could make alters look like this. I just need practice (obviously a crap ton of practice), but I'm currently working my way into an emotional state where I can be creative again.

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Post by Hermes_ » 1 year ago

I think next month i'm going to put my rare/commander collection into tapped out,so i can just link it and by like here's what i know i own.
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I think next month i'm going to put my rare/commander collection into tapped out,so i can just link it and by like here's what i know i own.
You can also do that here! Just go to the explore header and click my collection!
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Post by Airi » 1 year ago

I've nearly dug my way out of the Ikoria/C20 deckbuilding hole. :sweat:
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Post by ZenN » 1 year ago

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I've nearly dug my way out of the Ikoria/C20 deckbuilding hole. :sweat:
I wish more things in Ikoria appealed to me. Haldan, Avid Arcanist and Pako, Arcane Retriever turned out to be a lot of fun. Someone in my group build a Jirina Kudro list that is surprisingly solid. None of the other legends really jump out at me, though.
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I wish more things in Ikoria appealed to me. Haldan, Avid Arcanist and Pako, Arcane Retriever turned out to be a lot of fun. Someone in my group build a Jirina Kudro list that is surprisingly solid. None of the other legends really jump out at me, though.
I've built four decks so far purely out of cute factor. And I'm trying to find a way to make Kaheera, the Orphanguard work as a general, rather than in the 99 of Arahbo, Roar of the World . I'd be a liar if I didn't say that their abilities came second, although Tayam, Luminous Enigma could potentially be a contender for my next favorite deck. It's got a very Marath, Will of the Wild synergistic feel to it.
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Post by bobthefunny » 1 year ago

There's so much crazy in this set, I love it! There are actually a lot of cards that I want, and that makes me super happy. There's even a few terrible deck ideas that I want to build, and I love it.

Chief among them now, is that I am actually wanting to build Brudiclad, Telchor Engineer, in order to take advantage of Mutate shananigans. It's a reason to run mutate cards, and not even care what their abilities are.

The idea is simple: mutate a non-legendary creature on top of Brudiclad. Cast something like Cackling Counterpart onto Brudiclad to get a non-legendary token with Brudiclad's ability. Make all of your tokens into non-legendary Brudiclads. Cast Seize the Day to get extra combats, and exponentially more Brudiclads.

Would this be easier with Helm of the Host? Yes. Do I care? No. No I do not. Not one bit. :) I wish to use Mutate to make me be able to get multiple copies of my Commander out because I made it non-legendary and cloneable.

I'm seeking other commanders that this would be fun with. Blue is easiest to make cloned copies, but artifact commanders can use Sculpting Steel, and there are a few tricks in red to get there as well. Animar, Soul of Elements could be fun to run a pile of jank mutate with and clones. Just have piles of ever growing Animars. Then populate them with Selesnya Eulogist. Because why not?

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Post by tstorm823 » 1 year ago

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Alright, time to find the jank combo. If we mutate onto a creature, then clone it, then bounce the original, we can mutate onto the clone for double mutate triggers. Then we clone the new stack with another clone, bounce the first clone, and re-mutate onto the increasingly mutant creature. I just need an appropriately repeatable bounce and a lot of mana... unfortunately, none of the mutates seem to natively help with either of those goals, so this is gonna be a tough nut to crack, but I'm not dissuaded.
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Post by lyonhaert » 1 year ago

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Alright, time to find the jank combo. If we mutate onto a creature, then clone it, then bounce the original, we can mutate onto the clone for double mutate triggers. Then we clone the new stack with another clone, bounce the first clone, and re-mutate onto the increasingly mutant creature. I just need an appropriately repeatable bounce and a lot of mana... unfortunately, none of the mutates seem to natively help with either of those goals, so this is gonna be a tough nut to crack, but I'm not dissuaded.
Cubwarden makes tokens on mutate, as does Trumpeting Gnarr (depends on if you need one or two). Lore Drakkis returns and instant or sorcery card, or Vadrok, Apex of Thunder casts a noncreature card from the yard with cmc 3 or less without exiling it.

So you could use Cackling Counterpart, Quasiduplicate, Heat Shimmer, or Twinflame to make the token copy (as some options that are 3 cmc or less) and use Cloudstone Curio to do the bouncing.
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Post by Segrus » 1 year ago

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Cubwarden makes tokens on mutate, as does Trumpeting Gnarr (depends on if you need one or two). Lore Drakkis returns and instant or sorcery card, or Vadrok, Apex of Thunder casts a noncreature card from the yard with cmc 3 or less without exiling it.

So you could use Cackling Counterpart, Quasiduplicate, Heat Shimmer, or Twinflame to make the token copy (as some options that are 3 cmc or less) and use Cloudstone Curio to do the bouncing.
Yeah, I was going to say Cloudstone Curio and Lore Drakkis works out. Use Cackling Counterpart to copy the mutated creature, Curio bounces the original mutated creature, then mutate Drakkis back onto the original (if you don't have anything else with mutate).

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Post by tstorm823 » 1 year ago

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So you could use Cackling Counterpart, Quasiduplicate, Heat Shimmer, or Twinflame to make the token copy (as some options that are 3 cmc or less) and use Cloudstone Curio to do the bouncing.
And then you just need a way to repay for the mutate each time. With the Drakkis, it could just be Turnabout. Or the creature originally mutated onto could somehow make the mana by entering.
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Yeah, I was going to say Cloudstone Curio and Lore Drakkis works out. Use Cackling Counterpart to copy the mutated creature, Curio bounces the original mutated creature, then mutate Drakkis back onto the original (if you don't have anything else with mutate).
The issue with this I think is that Lore Drakkis doesn't scale up infinitely. You can't target the same instant or sorcery more than once, so having a billion triggers isn't much cooler than like 3 triggers.
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Hiya, I'm cjsaul0309 or Callum. I've been plying MTG for about a year and half there or abouts and have been playing commander for most of it I tend to build new decks out of habit on cockatrice and then get them IRL I do like putting good cards into my decks but I try not to build competitively but I have been known to realise that my decks can sometimes do broken things. I'm quite new to forums as a whole so It's a bit of a learning curve but being able to discuss commander and interactions is something I enjoy doing so I thought I'd try it out

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Post by Segrus » 1 year ago

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Yeah, I was going to say Cloudstone Curio and Lore Drakkis works out. Use Cackling Counterpart to copy the mutated creature, Curio bounces the original mutated creature, then mutate Drakkis back onto the original (if you don't have anything else with mutate).
The issue with this I think is that Lore Drakkis doesn't scale up infinitely. You can't target the same instant or sorcery more than once, so having a billion triggers isn't much cooler than like 3 triggers.
No, it wouldn't be very useful to keep mutating only Lore Drakkis. I was just meaning that if you had nothing else to mutate you only technically need Lore Drakkis to make a creature with some ridiculous number of mutate abilities.

Also, certainly somebody else has noticed this so I'm probably stupid for only just realizing it...but Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker with a creature mutated on top of it makes itself non-legendary. So you now suddenly have infinite creatures, right? I mean, you'd need to untap everything or have some other ETB effect triggering...
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Post by ZenN » 1 year ago

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Also, certainly somebody else has noticed this so I'm probably stupid for only just realizing it...but Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker with a creature mutated on top of it makes itself non-legendary. So you now suddenly have infinite creatures, right? I mean, you'd need to untap everything or have some other ETB effect triggering...
Yeah, any non-legendary mutate creature + Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker plus anything like Purphoros, God of the Forge; Impact Tremors; Altar of the Brood; or Corpse Knight gives a win. I'm not entirely sure how useful that is, though.
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Post by Segrus » 1 year ago

ZenN wrote:
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Segrus wrote:
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Also, certainly somebody else has noticed this so I'm probably stupid for only just realizing it...but Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker with a creature mutated on top of it makes itself non-legendary. So you now suddenly have infinite creatures, right? I mean, you'd need to untap everything or have some other ETB effect triggering...
Yeah, any non-legendary mutate creature + Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker plus anything like Purphoros, God of the Forge; Impact Tremors; Altar of the Brood; or Corpse Knight gives a win. I'm not entirely sure how useful that is, though.
Yeah, maybe not super useful generally speaking, but there might be some applications depending on the creature you use to mutate. Majestic Auricorn gives you infinite life; Mindleecher exiles all your opponents' decks; Auspicious Starrix puts your whole library into play (essentially); Insatiable Hemophage does what I was originally talking about except without a third card.

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Post by ZenN » 1 year ago

Segrus wrote:
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ZenN wrote:
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Segrus wrote:
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Also, certainly somebody else has noticed this so I'm probably stupid for only just realizing it...but Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker with a creature mutated on top of it makes itself non-legendary. So you now suddenly have infinite creatures, right? I mean, you'd need to untap everything or have some other ETB effect triggering...
Yeah, any non-legendary mutate creature + Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker plus anything like Purphoros, God of the Forge; Impact Tremors; Altar of the Brood; or Corpse Knight gives a win. I'm not entirely sure how useful that is, though.
Yeah, maybe not super useful generally speaking, but there might be some applications depending on the creature you use to mutate. Majestic Auricorn gives you infinite life; Mindleecher exiles all your opponents' decks; Auspicious Starrix puts your whole library into play (essentially); Insatiable Hemophage does what I was originally talking about except without a third card.
Those things only trigger on mutate, though. The copies Kiki makes will be entering the battlefield, not mutating.
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Post by Segrus » 1 year ago

ZenN wrote:
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Segrus wrote:
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ZenN wrote:
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Yeah, any non-legendary mutate creature + Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker plus anything like Purphoros, God of the Forge; Impact Tremors; Altar of the Brood; or Corpse Knight gives a win. I'm not entirely sure how useful that is, though.
Yeah, maybe not super useful generally speaking, but there might be some applications depending on the creature you use to mutate. Majestic Auricorn gives you infinite life; Mindleecher exiles all your opponents' decks; Auspicious Starrix puts your whole library into play (essentially); Insatiable Hemophage does what I was originally talking about except without a third card.
Those things only trigger on mutate, though. The copies Kiki makes will be entering the battlefield, not mutating.
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Hiya, I'm cjsaul0309 or Callum. I've been plying MTG for about a year and half there or abouts and have been playing commander for most of it I tend to build new decks out of habit on cockatrice and then get them IRL I do like putting good cards into my decks but I try not to build competitively but I have been known to realise that my decks can sometimes do broken things. I'm quite new to forums as a whole so It's a bit of a learning curve but being able to discuss commander and interactions is something I enjoy doing so I thought I'd try it out
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You're right. I want to go back in time when I didn't say something stupid. lol
Happens to the best of us. :)
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cryogen wrote:
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Hiya, I'm cjsaul0309 or Callum. I've been plying MTG for about a year and half there or abouts and have been playing commander for most of it I tend to build new decks out of habit on cockatrice and then get them IRL I do like putting good cards into my decks but I try not to build competitively but I have been known to realise that my decks can sometimes do broken things. I'm quite new to forums as a whole so It's a bit of a learning curve but being able to discuss commander and interactions is something I enjoy doing so I thought I'd try it out
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