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Re: The MCC Discussion Thread

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 8:53 pm
by StonerOfKruphix
void_nothing wrote:
4 years ago
(2/3) Elegance - Auras that add tap abilities can be kinda verbose, and the enchanting restriction on this card is clearly "just" to pass the subchallenge and doesn't add anything to the design.
Just wanted to clarify something about my design:
In a B/G deck you'll be able to play this on any creature and it will add two to your devotion without being too mana intensive, effectively rewarding you for playing those exact colors.
If you're playing only one of those colors, it will only add one to devotion and sometimes the restriction will bite you in the butt because you're not really "committing" to those colors.

Re: The MCC Discussion Thread

Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 5:51 am
by bravelion83
In the meantime, the judge signup thread for January is up, as it should be, a few days before Round 1. You can still wait until the end of Round 1 to decide if you want to play or judge this month.

Re: The MCC Discussion Thread

Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2019 7:46 am
by bravelion83
I hope it doesn't qualify as a double post after 5 days, but Round 1 for January is up. Yes, one day earlier than the official beginning of the month because I don't think many of us will think about Magic card design tonight. I might, but I know I would also be one of the few on Earth probably, if not the only one... but don't worry about me. Everything's gonna be fine. Enjoy the one extra day you have to enter your designs!

Re: The MCC Discussion Thread

Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2019 10:26 pm
by Gateways7
I have a question about judging - since, for this month, the main challenge of the contest has two qualifications (one being that the card is a common and the other being that it has a TBD mechanic), if a card was made that violated only one of these rules, would it get a 0/2 and be disqualified or a 1/2 for the "Main Challenge" section of judging? Thanks!

Re: The MCC Discussion Thread

Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2019 10:42 pm
by slimytrout
From the MCC Guidelines: "0 points mean that neither the letter nor the spirit of the Main Challenge are met, and a card that scores zero here will be DQ'ed." So I would interpret this to mean that it's judged not based on whether it satisfied one or both parts of the challenge, but based on how thoroughly it violates the challenge. So if, hypothetically, you just decided to submit a card that isn't a common (thereby violating both the spirit and the letter of the challenge), I imagine the result would be a DQ.

Re: The MCC Discussion Thread

Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2019 11:14 pm
by void_nothing
It would be a DQ. Not even ambiguous.

Re: The MCC Discussion Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 3:09 am
by bravelion83
Gateways7 wrote:
4 years ago
would it get a 0/2 and be disqualified or a 1/2 for the "Main Challenge" section of judging?
void_nothing is right, it's the former. Straight up DQ, because it's the Main Challenge. All requirements in the Main Challenge must always be met at the same time. If it were a Subchallenge, things would have been different, but it's not. So it would be a DQ, and a very easy one as a judge.
slimytrout wrote:
4 years ago
violating both the spirit and the letter of the challenge), I imagine the result would be a DQ.
Exactly. You've got the point.

EDIT: In other news, my judgments for December Round 3 are up.

Re: The MCC Discussion Thread

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:36 am
by Henlock
@b[mention]bravelion83[/mention]

Any thoughts on not requiring the for the effect? That was my most important design choice.

And on the name, well, I actually started with a Khalni Garden variant that ended up becoming a DCC submission and kind of kept the name. I completely missed the similarity!

Thanks for the judging

Re: The MCC Discussion Thread

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:16 am
by bravelion83
Henlock wrote:
4 years ago
Any thoughts on not requiring the T for the effect? That was my most important design choice.
I'm not perfect, and yes, that's a thing I completely missed. Judgments are never final until the judging deadline. I might still edit them before it. There are still 21 hours left as of this post during which I can adjust my judgment, and I think I will. Anyway, for the future, a pm would have probably been better for the first thing (the tap symbol not being there), which influences the judgment. I feel like a mention of this fact is due, I will think about whether it changes the scores. Again, I'm still on time.

EDIT: And in fact I just did. I've chosen to give you back the have point that I had taken away. The reasons are detailed in the edited judgment in the round thread, so it's useless for me to repeat them here.
Henlock wrote:
4 years ago
I completely missed the similarity!
We're tied! We each missed a thing! See? Nobody's perfect.

Re: The MCC Discussion Thread

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:04 am
by Ryder
I'd like to host February :)

Re: The MCC Discussion Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 2:58 pm
by void_nothing
[mention]Ryder[/mention] That would be awesome, thank you! I'll mark you down as next month's host.

Re: The MCC Discussion Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 2:58 pm
by void_nothing
Also: December's final round should be up later today pending the judgments.

Re: The MCC Discussion Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 11:05 pm
by Blydden
You'd think the current round of the December MCC would be easier to judge, but it's not, at least not for me. Still a work in progress, but I thought I'd have them done already by now, as likely did the rest of you. Apologies.

Re: The MCC Discussion Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:08 am
by bravelion83
A reminder to everyone that the official deadline for January Round 1 is tomorrow night (for now). It's possible I will extend it if we keep having so few contestants. I hope it's just because of the Christmas/New Year festivities. Anyway, if you're unsure whether to play or not, please come and join us!

Re: The MCC Discussion Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:49 am
by void_nothing
Speaking of rounds - after some delay my judgments for December's Round 3 are in and if [mention]Blydden[/mention] finishes judging tonight I should be able to post the final round; if that's not the case I'll post tomorrow with or without their scores, using just mine and bravelion's scores for the applicable contestants.

Re: The MCC Discussion Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 6:48 am
by Blydden
Speaking of, I am now all done with that aforementioned judgment!

(Thank goodness holidays are over until later this year.)

Re: The MCC Discussion Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 6:22 pm
by bravelion83
I hope we get a 15th contestant in the next 11 hours, if not, I will leave January Round 1 open until we get it. Again, if you're unsure whether to play, please do!

Re: The MCC Discussion Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 7:36 pm
by Icarii
These common challenges are rattling my mind haha. I do like specifying rarity more for challenges, but I look forward to doing noncommons soon!

Re: The MCC Discussion Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:03 pm
by void_nothing
Well this final round is meant to be fiendishly difficult. Leo's January round 1 feels significantly easier but poses its own challenges given how much design space has been used up in known THB cards for the various mechanics!

Re: The MCC Discussion Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:12 pm
by Icarii
If by fiendishly difficult, you mean wizards probably wouldn't print such things in the foreseeable future and hasnt done so in 20+ years, then yes.

Re: The MCC Discussion Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:36 pm
by bravelion83
I admit I had thought about doing the reverse, mythic to common. Maybe I should have, but now we're stuck with what I have. It's easy for me to say this in hindsight. Well, at least now we don't have the 15th contestant problem anymore, so thank you for that. Round 1 will close in about 5 hours and a half from this post, that's for sure now.

EDIT: My judgments for January round 1 have been posted. Check the bottom of the post below the line, as usual.

EDIT 2; And now Round 2 is up as well.

Re: The MCC Discussion Thread

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:21 pm
by void_nothing
My judgments for December's final round are done; if I don't hear from [mention]Blydden[/mention] today I'll just call the month, because it's been long enough. I'm sorry finishing took this long but it was a month of really good cards! I think that in a pinch two judges would enough to have a clear winner, anyhow.

Re: The MCC Discussion Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:22 pm
by void_nothing
And December's MCC victory goes to Legend!

Re: The MCC Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 2:13 am
by bravelion83
Congratulations to Legends for their victory!

In the meantime, my judgments for January Round 2 are done. As usual look at the bottom of the post. I wanted to get them done before the prerelease tomorrow. On Sunday, I'll judge Freyleyes's card out of competition.

Re: The MCC Discussion Thread

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 2:47 am
by Legend
Thank you!
[mention]void_nothing[/mention] that last challenge was excellent. It seemed simple on the surface but was quite a challenging challenge for us challengers.