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Post by The Desacrator » 4 years ago

Hey this is the list I came up with. Looking for tips on how to improve it. Money isn't much of a problem except the big things like tabernacle and Timetwister. Not playing some stuff cause I hate giving my opponent resources like Time Spiral.
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Post by benjameenbear » 4 years ago

Do you find yourself not needing spot removal a la Pongify too frequently? Being able to kill Gitrog for just a U is great, as well as other problem creatuers. The 3/3 isn't even relevant since Urza can block it like a champ.

I personally have always been a fan of Vedalken Shackles, so I will suggest it to you. Perhaps you could cut Codex Shredder or Pacification Array?

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Post by The Desacrator » 4 years ago

Added Pongify and Shackles. How good is shackles when i have very few islands?I like the recursion ability/win conditon of Codex Shredder. Pacification Array is to combo with Static Orb and Winter Orb but that may be too cute.

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Post by Theoric » 4 years ago

The Desacrator wrote:
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Added Pongify and Shackles. How good is shackles when i have very few islands?I like the recursion ability/win conditon of Codex Shredder. Pacification Array is to combo with Static Orb and Winter Orb but that may be too cute.
If your heart is set on those lands then you might prefer legacy's allure to vedalken shackles. Some people prefer it regardless how many islands you have.
The pacification array seems weak. It's Urza's job to tap those orbs.

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Post by The Desacrator » 4 years ago

That might be better. And yeah didn't even put that together for Urza to tap those pieces. Thanks for the help. Decklist updated.

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Post by The Desacrator » 4 years ago

Cut Dig Through Time for Impulse to lower the curve.

EDIT: Cut Stoic Rebuttal for Ensnaring Bridge.

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Post by The Desacrator » 4 years ago

Cuts

grafdigger's cage - trinisphere
trail of evidence - howling mine

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Post by benjameenbear » 4 years ago

I think these cuts are good. Was Grafdigger's Cage not good enough for your meta?

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Post by The Desacrator » 4 years ago

benjameenbear wrote:
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I think these cuts are good. Was Grafdigger's Cage not good enough for your meta?
Yes. Noone plays reanimator and it doesnt stop the combo decks in my meta.

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Post by benjameenbear » 4 years ago

Congratulations then! I have a Shuffle Hulk deck that I almost always play against when I'm gunning for a true cEDH game and Grafdigger's Cage is great against him.

I also play Future Sight in my deck and, maybe it's just bad luck, there have been two instances where the Cage shuts off my Future Top combo. That feels bad for sure...

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Post by The Desacrator » 4 years ago

benjameenbear wrote:
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Congratulations then! I have a Shuffle Hulk deck that I almost always play against when I'm gunning for a true cEDH game and Grafdigger's Cage is great against him.

I also play Future Sight in my deck and, maybe it's just bad luck, there have been two instances where the Cage shuts off my Future Top combo. That feels bad for sure...
Can I get a link to the deck list

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Post by benjameenbear » 4 years ago

For my personal Urza list or for the Shuffle Hulk list?

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Post by The Desacrator » 4 years ago

benjameenbear wrote:
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For my personal Urza list or for the Shuffle Hulk list?
Shuffle Hulk.

Also played this build yesterday in four 3 player games. Won 3/4 and one game on turn three. This deck is much more powerful than I gave it credit for. :)

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Post by benjameenbear » 4 years ago

My friend plays, exactly card-for-card, SickRobot's list which you can find here. It's stupidly resilient and consistent and is one of the best cEDH decks I've ever seen.

Urza's a fantastic card and any cEDH list built around him is VERY powerful. I like your list a lot as I play a similar density of Counterspells and have found it to be super enjoyable for how I prefer to play MTG.

Have you found the Karn + Lattice combo effective? Currently, my copy of Karn is in my Yawgmoth deck and I've been really pleased with it there but I think I'd be willing to acquire another one for Urza for both flavor and power.

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Post by The Desacrator » 4 years ago

Didn't have a chance to play that lock yet. The 3 games I won were with Back to Basics, Winter Orb, and Dramatic Scepter

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Post by The Desacrator » 4 years ago

Realized I have too many cards in the list.

- Preordain
- Legacy's Allure

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Post by The Desacrator » 4 years ago

Putting this deck on hold. Lost a couple of expensive cards and want to work on some other decks.

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