Lena - Robust ETB Loops

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Post by ISBPathfinder » 4 years ago

I was sort of intrigued as to what might come together for this commander. I am not really sure how I feel about it right now as a digital list untested but I am hoping to hit it with a few games online with some friends. The commander here is interesting as she can possibly protect our board as we go wide. I guess I will see how relevant that is when I get some games in with her.

The concept is fairly simple here, I put a bunch of ETB value creatures in here because the commander cares about how many non token creatures we have then I plan to flicker and cycle my commander and possibly some of the value creatures. Not really sure what my wincon plan is offhand but I at least have a few anthems in the deck that could help on that front. Hoping a bit more that I can just make the deck move smoothly rather than worrying about having bigger or better anthems. I contemplated some anthem creatures but my concern was that I might not get enough value to get to moving my commander around enough then. I can maybe test them a bit later.

I deliberately avoided mana alters in part because I don't want to go infinite. Both of the mana alters were a bit too easy. I also didn't see them doing all that much for me outside of their loops.


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In consideration:
  • Panharmonicon - I do have a lot of ETBs, my concern though is how many elements it is to get set up with the commander.
  • Anointed Procession / Divine Visitation - interesting but more setup to try to have. I tend to like these more when I have less overhead with strategies.
  • Faith's Reward - Seems useful but I don't really have much for sac outlets given the commander can sac herself and most of the rest of the deck is built on ETB effects.
  • Galepowder Mage - a bit slow in that he lacks haste but otherwise its sort of like another Conjurer's Closet in that its a one time cost.
  • More Ramp - It feels like I could probably use more ramp. I just don't know where to cut for it.
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Post by Theoric » 4 years ago

I was gonna suggest an old favorite of mine, Lifeline, but I see you have it in there already. Always loved that card, except for the arguments about how it worked - 'why does it say 'your' graveyard?' 'what happens if lifeline is destroyed before the end step?' etc.

Why no wrath of god? You might consider loyal retainers too.

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Post by ISBPathfinder » 4 years ago

Theoric wrote:
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I was gonna suggest an old favorite of mine, Lifeline, but I see you have it in there already. Always loved that card, except for the arguments about how it worked - 'why does it say 'your' graveyard?' 'what happens if lifeline is destroyed before the end step?' etc.

Why no wrath of god? You might consider loyal retainers too.
lol so I played this deck one game on Xmage and it quickly got out of hand. I actually ended up conceding because the things I was doing were slowing the program down to the point that my turns would take like 5 minutes to just do simple things because so much was happening. Its actually a fun deck though so.... maybe at some point I get a paper version because all of the triggers and number of permenants just became out of control in the one game I had. I did get Lifeline + Nim Deathmantle + Skullclamp + Soul Warden all triggering on stuff though so it was really a pain in the ass to process everything.

Wrath of God - I often don't play this card in commander because often I don't need the efficiency and speed of it. For one more mana I can cast Route and the upside utility of that card often performs better for me while the difference in mana at sorcery speed I find to often be acceptable as a compromise.

loyal retainers - I considered it as well as several others such as Karmic Guide. I am just not really sure how much I value a single shot rez as of right now and while having a body to it helps, I am just not really sure how I feel about them yet. Right now I am primarily trying to abuse the commander's ETB and have the option to pop her for wrath protection but I don't really like using up a card to loop her a single time I guess.
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