Rank the MH2 styles

Which is your favorite?

Regular
4
16%
Full alternate art
3
12%
Full regular art
1
4%
Playtest style
7
28%
Old border
10
40%
 
Total votes: 25

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Post by DirkGently » 2 years ago

I had to double check - yes there are 5 different styles within MH2 (though not every card has every option ofc).

Since polls don't allow ranked choice, post your order of preference below. I'm really curious what people think of the playtest versions in particular - I'm generally down with the art, but I don't like the frame (especially the smudgy set symbol) and I really don't like the art direction flavor text, so overall it's a miss for me, although there are some really cool ones like Serra's Emissary.
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Post by BeneTleilax » 2 years ago

Just give us the regular cards. All this alt art and alt frames is just a cash grab and a gimmick.

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Post by kirkusjones » 2 years ago

Old frames, all the way. The nostalgia bomb is just too strong for me. My friends and I have joked about rubberbanding a stack of the old frame cards and tossing them in a backpack for a week for maximum old school feel.

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Post by onering » 2 years ago

BeneTleilax wrote:
2 years ago
Just give us the regular cards. All this alt art and alt frames is just a cash grab and a gimmick.
Nah, I'm cool with the alt arts/frames sucking up pack value so I can buy boring old normal arts/ unpopular alts at lower prices than I'd be able to if there weren't chase alts sucking up pack value.

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Post by TheAmericanSpirit » 2 years ago

The playtest versions appeal to me greatly. The abstraction of the playtest Dress Down in particular I find very pretty for some reason. I think it's largely because most of them are such stark contrasts to the airbrushed "final draft" digital art and the lack of artistic consistency reminds me of the days before homogenized art direction.

But admittedly, my taste in art leans away from quote-unquote perfection anyway.

Edit: the old border does nothing for me. I never thought they needed to change in 8th edition in the first place, but backtracking design for popular demand strikes me as a fickle move. Make a move and commit.
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Post by Serenade » 2 years ago

I am evaluating based on the underlying card. Sythis and Dress Down look great with the play-test art. I think squirrels work best in retro frame, but I like Chatterfang's alt art more.

I pulled a retro border Vile Entomber and Rishadan Dockhand……but these FEEL like homages so much that I wish I just had regular, current borders for them (since they immediately register as Time Spiral/MH-type cards).
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Post by Sanity_Eclipse » 2 years ago

Full Alt Art was my vote (ie new art Titania). Full Art, Regular and then Old Border tied, in a 35/35/30 kinda way if that makes sense. Old border isn't necessarily bad to me, it just doesn't work on every card IMO.

The playtest style is my least favorite in this set. I love the BTS info and art direction and the rough drafts etc, just not on cards. Give us a website link with artist proofs or something more like that.

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Post by Sinis » 2 years ago

I think it varies from card to card for me. Some retro frames (like Tourach, Dread Cantor and Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar) are important to me because they're originally referenced on old-frame cards. But, like retro-frame Damn? Meaningless.

Some of the playtest-style cards are cool, but some like Road//Ruin seem basically blank.

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Post by JWK » 2 years ago

I mostly dislike the playtest-style cards. They just look shoddy and unfinished to me.
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Post by Guardman » 2 years ago

The playtest style is by far my favorite in the set and probably one of my favorite alternate styles (right up there with Throne of Eldrain's Storybook style). I really like seeing the artist sketch and how different artists do things differently. Plus finding the subtle differences (like the playtest version of Timeless Witness has a wolf instead of a hyena). Add the fact that the flavor text is the art director's notes and *chef's kiss*.

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Post by DirkGently » 2 years ago

Sinis wrote:
2 years ago
I think it varies from card to card for me. Some retro frames (like Tourach, Dread Cantor and Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar) are important to me because they're originally referenced on old-frame cards. But, like retro-frame Damn? Meaningless.
One thing that annoys me about new-old-border cards is when they have new templating, like the TSR Mystic Confluence. Bullet points on an old border card just look wrong to me.

And it's even weirder with Carth the Lion, that symbol doesn't look right anywhere.
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Post by PrimevalCommander » 2 years ago

I voted Full Art Regular. Alternate are are highly variable and I only go after very few alternate art cards.
I prefer Full Art Foils, however I rarely spring for them due to the high price. I can get plain art foils for the same price as the non-foils, so that is typically the way I go. Occasionally I'll go for the full art foil on cheap cards that don't spike the price so much. Anything popular quickly rises outside what I am willing to pay for the most premium printings.

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Post by duducrash » 2 years ago

Sketch art cards are my absolute favorites. Love them so much

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Post by folding_music » 2 years ago

the oldschool frames dont really work for me, and I love the original sets. looking at one of them makes me feel bad in a way I can't quite describe, and exclusively seeing big dumb EDH staples in it makes me long for underpowered casual. the old frame to me represents a billion naive but pioneering variants of chaos magic which arrived and departed too quickly to offer targetable demographics - we weren't Spikes, Johnnys, Timmies and Vorthoses so much as just a merry band of dumbasses with no talent in card assessment or any ambition to do the best version of whatever thing. with the old borders my ambitions were only to throw together a pile of cards that'd make the other players at the table laugh or enjoy themselves somehow; too many boring guides have crossed my eyes since then and I feel like only the past version of myself deserves the oldschool frames, somehow? I actually hate them and I hate Modern Horizons 2 for being heavy-handed and op. sorry to soapbox giggle

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Post by umtiger » 2 years ago

BeneTleilax wrote:
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Just give us the regular cards. All this alt art and alt frames is just a cash grab and a gimmick.
Printing cards straight into eternal formats is the cash grab.

Alternate Art and good-borders are not. They're what players actually want.

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Post by capitacommunist » 2 years ago

By far the old borders, followed by the full art alternate and the sketch cards. I wish they had not gone for etched foils in addition to the regular ones. The etched old border foils don't look bad, but they look much worse than the normal foil ones.
Some of the sketch cards look quite good, Urza's Saga for example is really nice.

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Post by pokken » 2 years ago

I like the sketch cards fairly well but it's all old border for me, especially on black cards and artifacts.

I cracked an old bordered Sword of Hearth and Home and it really spoke to me.

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Post by Legend » 2 years ago

Old border is the best. They never should have changed it. I want to like the sketches but they have a faux patina about them that makes them feel tryhard.
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Post by Dragoon » 2 years ago

I love the sketched frame, but only in non-foil. I'm torn on the flavour text being replaced by the art directions though, I like some of those texts and I don't want to choose between the frame and the flavour text. :P

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Post by DirkGently » 2 years ago

Dragoon wrote:
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I love the sketched frame, but only in non-foil. I'm torn on the flavour text being replaced by the art directions though, I like some of those texts and I don't want to choose between the frame and the flavour text. :P
I honestly haaaate the art direction text.

What the hell is the point of the word before the colon? Why does Rokiric's and Sythis's seem like basically the same thing, but one says "action" and one says "appearance"? How is a man a "mood" on Garth? And while some are fine even if a bit obvious, like ignoble hierarch and timeless witness, some are just honestly stupid, just a description of what the card does, or the name of the character with very little physical description. Were those the most interesting art directions they had to choose from? Whoever has that job is getting paid way too much.
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Post by Guardman » 2 years ago

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2 years ago
I honestly haaaate the art direction text.

What the hell is the point of the word before the colon? Why does Rokiric's and Sythis's seem like basically the same thing, but one says "action" and one says "appearance"? How is a man a "mood" on Garth? And while some are fine even if a bit obvious, like ignoble hierarch and timeless witness, some are just honestly stupid, just a description of what the card does, or the name of the character with very little physical description. Were those the most interesting art directions they had to choose from? Whoever has that job is getting paid way too much.
I actually really liked the art direction text. I found it interesting to see what mood, action, etc. they wanted the artist going for with the card. And I appreciated that they kept it same as an actual art direction by keeping in the section titles like "mood" and "action".

I will say doing a little art direction myself in my job (though it was in relation to video editing and shooting drone videos) that coming up with little prompts that the person creating your art can use is harder than it looks as it is a fine line between clearly stating what you want while not overloading them with info. This would be even more so with something like a painting since the reason you presumably chose this person is that you think their art style is a good fit for what you want and you don't want to backseat paint so that you lose what you were looking for.

I will give you that Synthis' showcase text doesn't look very much like an action and more like appearance. The only thing I can think of their is that the (p. 26) mentioned in the text was a reference to the action they were looking for.

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