Group Think: O-Kagachi


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Post by Sinis » 3 years ago

Since there are only two or three voters remaining in the project, you may end up deadlocked without a policy change.

I'll vote for Tome of Legends.

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Post by Treamayne » 3 years ago

Day 26


Now voting to cut: Non-Lands

Change:
Since this has stagnated, I have nominated non-lands to use in voting for cuts. We now only need 2 votes for cuts (nomination has always counted as the first vote).
Sections will be:
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  • 3 Creature(s)
  • 5 from among Enchantments, Artifacts, and Planeswalkers
  • 1 from among Instants and Sorceries
    We should now be at: 30 Creatures, 15 Spells, 20 Other
  • 8 Non-Lands
    We should now be at 59 of 99
  • Cut lands until we are at 40
Chopped
3 Creatures
3 Votes - Pramikon, Sky Rampart
3 Votes - Slumbering Dragon
3 Votes - Skyline Despot

5 among Enchantments, Artifacts and Planeswalkers (1 remains)
3 Votes - Sarkhan Unbroken
3 Votes - Prismatic Omen
3 Votes - Mu Yanling
3 Votes - Tome of Legends

1 among Instants and Sorceries

6 additional Non-Lands from any type

Chopping Block
NLNCP Spells Creatures
V/R

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Post by Sinis » 3 years ago

I'll vote for Courtly Provocateur. It's just not that exciting.


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Post by Segrus » 3 years ago

There's one vote for Karrthus already, but I can't seem to find where that vote was. Well, regardless, Karrthus would have my vote to remove. It's essentially an overblown haste effect for O-Kagachi with the downside of potentially handing your commander over to somebody else.

Side note, I think it's probably going to always be harder to get engagement when it comes to removing things. I wonder if there's maybe a different...format? presentation?...something (?) that might work better for removing stuff versus adding stuff. It could have to do with how it's harder to keep scrolling up and down between the current list, the list of things available for nominations/voting, and what's already been nominated/voted on. I'm not saying you didn't do a good job, because you've done amazing job with this thread. I'm just saying it was hard for me to visualize all of it at once since I'm much more of a hands-on deck builder (which makes sense, I only play paper Magic).

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Post by Henlock » 3 years ago

maybe we can list cuts. If a category gets overcut, last cuts on that categoey can come back or we can open a atunement stage

I'd rather cut Kiora's Follower rather than Unbender Tine

I'll vote for Keep Watch. I don't like Expansion // Explosion much for cards, but we can amass quite a bit of mana in the right circumstances and the damage can be nice. copying can.also be fun

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Post by Treamayne » 3 years ago

Segrus wrote:
3 years ago
There's one vote for Karrthus already, but I can't seem to find where that vote was.
It was part of the mass nominations I made to speed the process back on Day 23 or so.
Henlock wrote:
3 years ago
maybe we can list cuts. If a category gets overcut, last cuts on that category can come back or we can open a atunement stage
Not sure what you mean here, these synopses have lists of cuts and votes... once we meet the number of cuts, voting will end.

Day 27


Now voting to cut: Non-Land

Change:
Since this has stagnated, I have nominated non-lands to use in voting for cuts. We now only need 2 votes for cuts.
Sections will be:
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  • 3 Creature(s)
  • 5 from among Enchantments, Artifacts, and Planeswalkers
  • 1 from among Instants and Sorceries
    We should now be at: 30 Creatures, 15 Spells, 20 Other
  • 8 Non-Lands
    We should now be at 59 of 99
  • Cut lands until we are at 40
Chopped
3 Creatures (Complete)
3 Votes - Pramikon, Sky Rampart
3 Votes - Slumbering Dragon
3 Votes - Skyline Despot

5 among Enchantments, Artifacts and Planeswalkers (1 remains)
3 Votes - Sarkhan Unbroken
3 Votes - Prismatic Omen
3 Votes - Mu Yanling
3 Votes - Tome of Legends

1 among Instants and Sorceries

6 additional Non-Lands from any type (5 remain)
3 Votes - Courtly Provocateur

Chopping Block
NLNCP Spells Creatures
V/R

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Post by Sinis » 3 years ago

I'll vote to cut Thought Distortion. It's mean, and there's no real dovetail in our strategy.

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Post by Segrus » 3 years ago

Sinis wrote:
3 years ago
I'll vote to cut Thought Distortion. It's mean, and there's no real dovetail in our strategy.
I think the deck might be lacking graveyard removal, but I don't think Thought Distortion is the card needed for that effect. I'll vote for Thought Distortion too.

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Post by Sinis » 3 years ago

Segrus wrote:
3 years ago
Sinis wrote:
3 years ago
I'll vote to cut Thought Distortion. It's mean, and there's no real dovetail in our strategy.
I think the deck might be lacking graveyard removal, but I don't think Thought Distortion is the card needed for that effect. I'll vote for Thought Distortion too.
We are light; sadly no one nominated Bojuka Bog. We still have Rakdos Charm, though.

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Post by Segrus » 3 years ago

Bojuka Bog would have been nice. Thought Distortion is just so costly for this kind of effect. Plus, not hitting creatures in the graveyard feels quite bad.

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Post by Treamayne » 3 years ago

Day 28


Now voting to cut: Non-Land

Change:
Since this has stagnated, I have nominated non-lands to use in voting for cuts. We now only need 2 votes for cuts.
Sections will be:
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Hide
  • 3 Creature(s)
  • 5 from among Enchantments, Artifacts, and Planeswalkers
  • 1 from among Instants and Sorceries
    We should now be at: 30 Creatures, 15 Spells, 20 Other
  • 8 Non-Lands
    We should now be at 59 of 99
  • Cut lands until we are at 40
Chopped
3 Creatures (Complete)
3 Votes - Pramikon, Sky Rampart
3 Votes - Slumbering Dragon
3 Votes - Skyline Despot

5 among Enchantments, Artifacts and Planeswalkers (1 remains)
3 Votes - Sarkhan Unbroken
3 Votes - Prismatic Omen
3 Votes - Mu Yanling
3 Votes - Tome of Legends

1 among Instants and Sorceries (Complete)
3 Votes - Painful Truths

6 additional Non-Lands from any type (4 remain)
3 Votes - Courtly Provocateur
3 Votes - Thought Distortion

Chopping Block
NLNCP Spells Creatures
V/R

Treamayne


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Post by Sinis » 3 years ago

I'll vote to cut Grenzo, Havoc Raiser.

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Post by Treamayne » 3 years ago

Day 29


Now voting to cut: Non-Land

Change:
Since this has stagnated, I have nominated non-lands to use in voting for cuts. We now only need 2 votes for cuts.
Sections will be:
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  • 3 Creature(s)
  • 5 1 from among Enchantments, Artifacts, and Planeswalkers
  • 1 from among Instants and Sorceries
    We should now be at: 30 Creatures, 15 Spells, 20 Other
  • 6 Non-Lands
    We should now be at 59 of 99
  • Cut lands until we are at 40
Chopped
3 Creatures (Complete)
3 Votes - Pramikon, Sky Rampart
3 Votes - Slumbering Dragon
3 Votes - Skyline Despot

5 among Enchantments, Artifacts and Planeswalkers (1 remains)
3 Votes - Sarkhan Unbroken
3 Votes - Prismatic Omen
3 Votes - Mu Yanling
3 Votes - Tome of Legends

1 among Instants and Sorceries (Complete)
3 Votes - Painful Truths

6 additional Non-Lands from any type (4 remain)
3 Votes - Courtly Provocateur
3 Votes - Thought Distortion

Chopping Block
V/R

Treamayne


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Post by Sinis » 3 years ago

I'll vote to cut Niv-Mizzet Reborn

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Post by Segrus » 3 years ago

So Karrthus isn't cut yet? Hm. I thought I'd tried to vote on it previously, but I'm a little confused on the voting now. In any case...

I vote for Karrthus.



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Post by Treamayne » 3 years ago

Segrus wrote:
3 years ago
So Karrthus isn't cut yet? Hm. I thought I'd tried to vote on it previously, but I'm a little confused on the voting now. In any case...

I vote for Karrthus.
Voting was modified to meet the level of participation. Basically, I nominated enough non-land cards (nomination counts for 1 vote) to have at least two over the minimum number to cut in each category, and participants now vote on cards that are listed "on the chopping block." If a card gets to three total votes, it's gone. When all "cut" slots are filled, we'll stop and move to cutting land (down to 40 total).

Day 30


Now voting to cut: Non-Land

Change:
Since this has stagnated, I have nominated non-lands to use in voting for cuts. We now only need 2 votes for cuts.
Sections will be:
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  • 3 Creature(s)
  • 5 1 from among Enchantments, Artifacts, and Planeswalkers
  • 1 from among Instants and Sorceries
    We should now be at: 30 Creatures, 15 Spells, 20 Other
  • 6 Non-Lands
    We should now be at 59 of 99
  • Cut lands until we are at 40
Chopped
3 Creatures (Complete)
3 Votes - Pramikon, Sky Rampart
3 Votes - Slumbering Dragon
3 Votes - Skyline Despot

5 among Enchantments, Artifacts and Planeswalkers (1 remains)
3 Votes - Sarkhan Unbroken
3 Votes - Prismatic Omen
3 Votes - Mu Yanling
3 Votes - Tome of Legends

1 among Instants and Sorceries (Complete)
3 Votes - Painful Truths

6 additional Non-Lands from any type (2 remain)
3 Votes - Courtly Provocateur
3 Votes - Thought Distortion
3 Votes - Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund
3 Votes - Seasoned Pyromancer

Chopping Block
V/R

Treamayne

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Post by Sinis » 3 years ago

I'll vote to cut Keep Watch

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Post by Treamayne » 3 years ago

Day 31


Now voting to cut: Non-Land (2 Remain)

Change:
Since this has stagnated, I have nominated non-lands to use in voting for cuts. We now only need 2 votes for cuts.
Sections will be:
Show
Hide
  • 3 Creature(s)
  • 5 1 from among Enchantments, Artifacts, and Planeswalkers
  • 1 from among Instants and Sorceries
    We should now be at: 30 Creatures, 15 Spells, 20 Other
  • 6 Non-Lands
    We should now be at 59 of 99
  • Cut lands until we are at 40
Chopped
3 Creatures (Complete)
3 Votes - Pramikon, Sky Rampart
3 Votes - Slumbering Dragon
3 Votes - Skyline Despot

5 among Enchantments, Artifacts and Planeswalkers (1 remains)
3 Votes - Sarkhan Unbroken
3 Votes - Prismatic Omen
3 Votes - Mu Yanling
3 Votes - Tome of Legends

1 among Instants and Sorceries (Complete)
3 Votes - Painful Truths

6 additional Non-Lands from any type (1 remains)
3 Votes - Courtly Provocateur
3 Votes - Thought Distortion
3 Votes - Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund
3 Votes - Seasoned Pyromancer
3 Votes - Keep Watch

Chopping Block
V/R

Treamayne

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