Which artifact/enchantment removal to cut for Gruul

[NZB2323]

I have a Gruul deck that currently runs these for artifact/enchantment removal:

• Return to nature
• Hull Breach
• Krosan Grip
• Force of Vigor

I want to cut one of these cards, but can't figure out which one to cut. They all have their strengths and weaknesses. Can you help me decide which one to cut?

[pokken]

Of those I think return to nature is the most expendable.

[Segrus]

If you got rid of Return to Nature, would you also be getting rid of your only graveyard removal? The flexibility is less important, I'd think, compared to what you're getting with the other choices (although if you aren't in a counter spell heavy meta, then maybe Krosan Grip isn't as good).

[gilrad]

Hull breach is the only sorcery listed, I'd give it the boot.

Then again, I'm kinda addicted to instant-speed interaction. I like letting my opponents' problem permanents cause problems for each other, then dealing with them the moment they cause problems for me specifically.

[Toshi]

My vote goes to Hull Breach.
I know, it's considered a "classic", but i dislike sorcery speed spot removal unless it is stapled on a permanent. I'd cut Krosan Grip next. For its CMC it doesn't hit enough targets and Split Second isn't as strong when it doesn't affect potential commanders.
I'd cut Return to Nature last. CMC, flexibility when it comes to timing and targets... it's all there.

[NZB2323]

If you got rid of Return to Nature, would you also be getting rid of your only graveyard removal? The flexibility is less important, I'd think, compared to what you're getting with the other choices (although if you aren't in a counter spell heavy meta, then maybe Krosan Grip isn't as good).

Primal Command is the only other GY hate card in the deck.

[Segrus]

Primal Command is the only other GY hate card in the deck.

Yeah, that makes me lean more towards one of the others. I would be tempted to take out Krosan Grip.

[Mookie]

Depends a lot on what else you have in the deck, but in a vacuum, I'd say Return to Nature for having the least additional utility. On the other hand, if this is your entire interaction suite, I'd say 'none of them', because I'm the sort of person that isn't comfortable running under ten pieces of interaction in my decks. There are a lot of good artifact/enchantment removal spells in Gruul that you may already be playing though (well, mostly green, but red has Chaos Warp and a few other gems).

[NZB2323]

Depends a lot on what else you have in the deck, but in a vacuum, I'd say Return to Nature for having the least additional utility. On the other hand, if this is your entire interaction suite, I'd say 'none of them', because I'm the sort of person that isn't comfortable running under ten pieces of interaction in my decks. There are a lot of good artifact/enchantment removal spells in Gruul that you may already be playing though (well, mostly green, but red has Chaos Warp and a few other gems).

Yeah, I wasn't including cards like Beast Within or Primal Command.

[Sinis]

Depends on your environment and your deck. If people are running cards where split second is relevant, like Greater Good or Survival of the Fittest, then, Krosan Grip is a must. If you're in a softer environment, K-grip could get cut.

In terms of your deck, if you have a lot of reliable card draw, the value from cards like Hull Breach is not all that important. In a vacuum, I would say Hull Breach is the weakest of the cards you listed.

[Outcryqq]

I'd vote Hull Breach

[darrenhabib]

Always get rid of sorcery speed removal before instant speed removal. Your life may depend on it.

[hyalopterouslemur]

Hull Breach. It's a sorcery. You need instant-speed removal and lots of it.

[Serenade]

Not to pirate this topic, but where do you guys rank Cindervines compared to everything else?