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ISBPathfinder Bebopin
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Honestly, I haven't looked at a card like this in many years now but with Treasure and weird artifact tokens everywhere these days I am wondering if you really even need to lean into a card like this to expect it to pop off some draw for you. Anyone seen anything like this lately being used? Back when it was made it was a bit too niche but we have seen so many disposable artifact tokens just stapled to the back of other cards lately I wonder if you even need to really lean into it to expect this to do some work.
Honestly, I haven't looked at a card like this in many years now but with Treasure and weird artifact tokens everywhere these days I am wondering if you really even need to lean into a card like this to expect it to pop off some draw for you. Anyone seen anything like this lately being used? Back when it was made it was a bit too niche but we have seen so many disposable artifact tokens just stapled to the back of other cards lately I wonder if you even need to really lean into it to expect this to do some work.
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Common Artifact tokens with sacrifice abilities printed since this card's release: Treasure, Clue, Food, Blood, Map, Gold
I think this card looks 10x better now than it did when printed. All of these require sacrifice to activate, and now we have a slew of removal options handing out these tokens as consolation prizes. I have not been watching too close, but I would venture to guess the last several games I played has at least one of these tokens pop up, and sometimes many of them. If my mono-green deck wasn't so hyper focused on land synergy and Elemental Bond effects, I would probably make a slot to test this out. I'll look for another deck that might want this.
It still does have the primary detractor with a draw spell. You have to rely on your opponents to do certain things or play certain things. With draw especially you want to be in control of when it happens and how much you get, otherwise the high variance create low lows when it doesn't reach it's potential.
I think this card looks 10x better now than it did when printed. All of these require sacrifice to activate, and now we have a slew of removal options handing out these tokens as consolation prizes. I have not been watching too close, but I would venture to guess the last several games I played has at least one of these tokens pop up, and sometimes many of them. If my mono-green deck wasn't so hyper focused on land synergy and Elemental Bond effects, I would probably make a slot to test this out. I'll look for another deck that might want this.
It still does have the primary detractor with a draw spell. You have to rely on your opponents to do certain things or play certain things. With draw especially you want to be in control of when it happens and how much you get, otherwise the high variance create low lows when it doesn't reach it's potential.
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This is one of those cards like Compost or Carpet of Flowers that is probably incredible against "The Meta", but in practice tends to feel too swingy and unreliable. I might consider this in a deck that cared about enchantments or devotion just because the ceiling is so high and that helps fix the abysmal floor a bit, and of course it's great if you are giving out tokens like Gluntch, the Bestower this is strong. This card is definitely much stronger than it was at printing (so is Fangren Marauder), but still not one I'd just slam generically into any deck.
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I play this in any Collector Ouphe, Titania's Song, Karn, the Great Creator and Null Rod and it does exactly what it says on the tin. Either I draw a bunch of cards because people don't %$#% slow down, or they slow down to play around it while I Cultivate and Nature's Lore my way ahead. It's win/win.
Some people will say "ItS a MeTa CaRd", but the reality is, this is the environment we play in today. What table doesn't have a Prosper, Tome-Bound at it? What deck doesn't have Smothering Tithe? If you're going to get beat up by Old Gnawbone or Ancient Copper Dragon, you may as well draw some cards and maybe draw into your interaction for it.
deck alongside Some people will say "ItS a MeTa CaRd", but the reality is, this is the environment we play in today. What table doesn't have a Prosper, Tome-Bound at it? What deck doesn't have Smothering Tithe? If you're going to get beat up by Old Gnawbone or Ancient Copper Dragon, you may as well draw some cards and maybe draw into your interaction for it.
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Vince just dropped a video about how much of a problem treasures are and included this card in the list of answers. I just figured the video itself was sort of related to the topic at hand as well as listing a good number of other useful cards for those who might consider this one.
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Just saw that video drop, very timely.
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Rocco WILD PAIR
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Rocco WILD PAIR
Sefris of the Hidden Ways *Budget*(Page 4)
God-Eternal Oketra
Titania, Protector of Argoth
Thanks for this thread. I just picked one up for my Morophon deck. Yes, it's conditional, but so is Carpet of Flowers, Dockside Extortionist, and Smuggler's Share.
I'm a big fan of Dauntless Dismantler for being an "answer" to treasure in my human tribal deck, but this card is maybe better.
Smothering Tithe, Dockside Extortionist, and black market connections are all staples. It's even better with cards like an offer you can't refuse, Get Lost, and Fateful Absence.
Plus green has plenty of artifact board wipes where this could result in a huge draw.
Edit: @ISBPathfinder, thanks for posting that video. I picked up a Disciple of the Vault for my cleric tribal deck.
I'm a big fan of Dauntless Dismantler for being an "answer" to treasure in my human tribal deck, but this card is maybe better.
Smothering Tithe, Dockside Extortionist, and black market connections are all staples. It's even better with cards like an offer you can't refuse, Get Lost, and Fateful Absence.
Plus green has plenty of artifact board wipes where this could result in a huge draw.
Edit: @ISBPathfinder, thanks for posting that video. I picked up a Disciple of the Vault for my cleric tribal deck.
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Morophon, the infinite Kavu Eowyn, human tribal Legolas, voltron control Tymna/Ravos cleric tribal Neheb, Chicago Bulls tribal Edric pauper
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Edgar Markov Kaalia, angel board wipes Ghen, prison Captain Sisay Nymris, draw go Sarulf, voltron control Niv-Mizzet, combo Winota Sidisi, Zombie Tribal
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ISBPathfinder Bebopin
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I realized that Eye of Singularity has some anti treasure / clue token kind of vibes to it too on top of its historic token hate gameplan. Just thought I would mention it as its kind of in line with some of this other hate and a card I haven't seen mentioned yet.
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I actually like this card as I can use my equipments and sac outlets without turning them off or paying mana to keep them around. Bonus points for making young lions ask "what's an enchant world?" ah ha ha haaaa.