Which do you like more?
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Depends on the deck, but I'd lean towards Dragonlord Dromoka in a vacuum. As part of the 99, I think the cast prevention clause is better than Sigard's anti-sacrifice clause, since countermagic is more common than sacrifice effects. Sigarda's hexproof means she is harder to kill, but unless you voltron her up, I don't think she's actually worth killing, which means I lean towards Dromoka's lifelink. Definitely depends on the deck and the meta though.
Curious what people prefer for their board wipes:
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Curious what people prefer for their board wipes:
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Day of Judgement, even though it really depends entirely on the deck.
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I know it's a weird one, but they're both creatures that wipe some kind of permanent, so it works.
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I know it's a weird one, but they're both creatures that wipe some kind of permanent, so it works.
EDH:
Krenko, Goblin Stampede
Nylea, God of Hydra Counters
Mahadi, Emporium Master
Feather, Catrips Redeemed
Ghired, The Tokened
Hakbal, Merfolk Massacre
Ten and Clara, Suspended
Krenko, Goblin Stampede
Nylea, God of Hydra Counters
Mahadi, Emporium Master
Feather, Catrips Redeemed
Ghired, The Tokened
Hakbal, Merfolk Massacre
Ten and Clara, Suspended
In a vacuum I view Panharmonicon as playable and Conjurer's Closet as a borderline novelty, so let's roll with the former.
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Insurrection is more fun in my opinion and usually ends games faster than Expropriate. Expropriate kind've just drags things out and makes everyone feel awful.
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LOL - "They're the same picture." Llanowar Elves|M12 for the brutal flavor text.
Edit: Oh, dang. Almost forgot. A couple more artifacts.
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Edit: Oh, dang. Almost forgot. A couple more artifacts.
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DirkGently My wins are unconditional
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Rings. Not tapping = big money, and I love all the little value from fetches and stuff. You just generally have more control over activated abilities.
Two neo-classic 3-mana artifacts of unknown power:
Two neo-classic 3-mana artifacts of unknown power:
Perm Decks
Phelddagrif - Kaervek - Golos - Zirilan
Flux Decks
Gollum - Lobelia - Minthara - Plargg2 - Solphim - Otharri - Graaz - Ratchet - Soundwave - Slicer - Gale - Rootha - Kagemaro - Blorpityblorpboop - Kayla - SliverQueen - Ivy - Falco - Gluntch - Charlatan/Wilson - Garth - Kros - Anthousa - Shigeki - Light-Paws - Lukka - Sefris - Ebondeath - Rokiric - Garth - Nixilis - Grist - Mavinda - Kumano - Nezahal - Mavinda - Plargg - Plargg - Extus - Plargg - Oracle - Kardur - Halvar - Tergrid - Egon - Cosima - Halana+Livio - Jeska+Falthis+Obosh - Yeva - Akiri+Zirda - Lady Sun - Nahiri - Korlash - Overlord+Zirda - Chisei - Athreos2 - Akim - Cazur+Ukkima - Otrimi - Otrimi - Kalamax - Ayli+Lurrus - Clamilton - Gonti - Heliod2 - Ayula - Thassa2 - Gallia - Purphoros2 - Rankle - Uro - Rayami - Gargos - Thrasios+Bruse - Pang - Sasaya - Wydwen - Feather - Rona - Toshiro - Sylvia+Khorvath - Geth - QMarchesa - Firesong - Athreos - Arixmethes - Isperia - Etali - Silas+Sidar - Saskia - Virtus+Gorm - Kynaios - Naban - Aryel - Mizzix - Kazuul - Tymna+Kraum - Sidar+Tymna - Ayli - Gwendlyn - Phelddagrif - Liliana - Kaervek - Phelddagrif - Mairsil - Scarab - Child - Phenax - Shirei - Thada - Depala - Circu - Kytheon - GrenzoHR - Phelddagrif - Reyhan+Kraum - Toshiro - Varolz - Nin - Ojutai - Tasigur - Zedruu - Uril - Edric - Wort - Zurgo - Nahiri - Grenzo - Kozilek - Yisan - Ink-Treader - Yisan - Brago - Sidisi - Toshiro - Alexi - Sygg - Brimaz - Sek'Kuar - Marchesa - Vish Kal - Iroas - Phelddagrif - Ephara - Derevi - Glissa - Wanderer - Saffi - Melek - Xiahou Dun - Lazav - Lin Sivvi - Zirilan - Glissa - Ashling1 - Angus - Arcum - Talrand - Chainer - Higure - Kumano - Scion - Teferi1 - Uyo - Sisters
PDH - Drake - Graverobber - Izzet GM - Tallowisp - Symbiote
Brawl - Feather - Ugin - Jace - Scarab - Angrath - Vraska - Kumena
Oathbreaker - Wrenn&6
Phelddagrif - Kaervek - Golos - Zirilan
Flux Decks
Gollum - Lobelia - Minthara - Plargg2 - Solphim - Otharri - Graaz - Ratchet - Soundwave - Slicer - Gale - Rootha - Kagemaro - Blorpityblorpboop - Kayla - SliverQueen - Ivy - Falco - Gluntch - Charlatan/Wilson - Garth - Kros - Anthousa - Shigeki - Light-Paws - Lukka - Sefris - Ebondeath - Rokiric - Garth - Nixilis - Grist - Mavinda - Kumano - Nezahal - Mavinda - Plargg - Plargg - Extus - Plargg - Oracle - Kardur - Halvar - Tergrid - Egon - Cosima - Halana+Livio - Jeska+Falthis+Obosh - Yeva - Akiri+Zirda - Lady Sun - Nahiri - Korlash - Overlord+Zirda - Chisei - Athreos2 - Akim - Cazur+Ukkima - Otrimi - Otrimi - Kalamax - Ayli+Lurrus - Clamilton - Gonti - Heliod2 - Ayula - Thassa2 - Gallia - Purphoros2 - Rankle - Uro - Rayami - Gargos - Thrasios+Bruse - Pang - Sasaya - Wydwen - Feather - Rona - Toshiro - Sylvia+Khorvath - Geth - QMarchesa - Firesong - Athreos - Arixmethes - Isperia - Etali - Silas+Sidar - Saskia - Virtus+Gorm - Kynaios - Naban - Aryel - Mizzix - Kazuul - Tymna+Kraum - Sidar+Tymna - Ayli - Gwendlyn - Phelddagrif - Liliana - Kaervek - Phelddagrif - Mairsil - Scarab - Child - Phenax - Shirei - Thada - Depala - Circu - Kytheon - GrenzoHR - Phelddagrif - Reyhan+Kraum - Toshiro - Varolz - Nin - Ojutai - Tasigur - Zedruu - Uril - Edric - Wort - Zurgo - Nahiri - Grenzo - Kozilek - Yisan - Ink-Treader - Yisan - Brago - Sidisi - Toshiro - Alexi - Sygg - Brimaz - Sek'Kuar - Marchesa - Vish Kal - Iroas - Phelddagrif - Ephara - Derevi - Glissa - Wanderer - Saffi - Melek - Xiahou Dun - Lazav - Lin Sivvi - Zirilan - Glissa - Ashling1 - Angus - Arcum - Talrand - Chainer - Higure - Kumano - Scion - Teferi1 - Uyo - Sisters
PDH - Drake - Graverobber - Izzet GM - Tallowisp - Symbiote
Brawl - Feather - Ugin - Jace - Scarab - Angrath - Vraska - Kumena
Oathbreaker - Wrenn&6
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At first I thought this was a no brainier but Crush Contraband is better than I thought. Still I think Return to Dust is more versatile so I'll go with that.
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I'd say Soul of the Harvest. Sure, Sage gets you value even if you get countered, but Soul responds to flicker, which has a variety of synergies. Plus the body's better. That said, my favourite of all of those effects would have to be Guardian Project.
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Reflecting Pool. Even though it doesn't usually matter in EDH, I prefer not paying the life every time I tap it. The problem is that you still pay if something like blood moon or Urborg is in effect.
EDH:
Krenko, Goblin Stampede
Nylea, God of Hydra Counters
Mahadi, Emporium Master
Feather, Catrips Redeemed
Ghired, The Tokened
Hakbal, Merfolk Massacre
Ten and Clara, Suspended
Krenko, Goblin Stampede
Nylea, God of Hydra Counters
Mahadi, Emporium Master
Feather, Catrips Redeemed
Ghired, The Tokened
Hakbal, Merfolk Massacre
Ten and Clara, Suspended
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chaos warp. Indestructible and eternal witness are both things. Chaos warp is also just a lot more fun for both players to watch resolve. There's that moment of tension of the "is he going to get that 1% chance to flip the same card and blow me out?" That moment is always great for both players which is a rare upside for a removal spell.
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I don't like either, unless I am running them.
Why not just be a #$&+@√π¥€£×¢÷ and run both?
Mox Diamond or Chrome Mox
Why not just be a #$&+@√π¥€£×¢÷ and run both?
Mox Diamond or Chrome Mox
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Functionally Mox Diamond is better, but that price tag... ouch. I'd use one over chrome if I had one. I'm actually surprised its EDHRec numbers are that high.
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Edit: [mention]Skello496[/mention], I meant to add:
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Edit: [mention]Skello496[/mention], I meant to add:
With Urborg CoB would still ping you, but Blood Moon would remove that ability.The problem is that you still pay if something like blood moon or Urborg is in effect.
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Detention Sphere because you can permanently exile the cards by getting rid of the sphere in response to it's etb ability. Against tokens, it's just an absolute blowout. Also, since Grasp of Fate takes something away from each opponent, it kind've encourages all of them to team up against you in order to of get their stuff back.
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Yeah... that's what I get for posting way too early in the morning. :laugh:lyonhaert wrote: ↑4 years ago
Edit: Skello496, I meant to add:With Urborg CoB would still ping you, but Blood Moon would remove that ability.The problem is that you still pay if something like blood moon or Urborg is in effect.
Also, sad I missed Enduring Renewal, that card is part of an infinite mill combo. Fun times.
EDH:
Krenko, Goblin Stampede
Nylea, God of Hydra Counters
Mahadi, Emporium Master
Feather, Catrips Redeemed
Ghired, The Tokened
Hakbal, Merfolk Massacre
Ten and Clara, Suspended
Krenko, Goblin Stampede
Nylea, God of Hydra Counters
Mahadi, Emporium Master
Feather, Catrips Redeemed
Ghired, The Tokened
Hakbal, Merfolk Massacre
Ten and Clara, Suspended
Since I used to have a Horde of Notions aggro deck, I'm more likely to play Tornado Elemental before Silklash Spider in EDH. Besides a better tribe, the come into play ability is big.
That being said, I actually like Silklash Spider much more as a card. And have actually played with it a lot in type 4.
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That being said, I actually like Silklash Spider much more as a card. And have actually played with it a lot in type 4.
Next up:
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Primal Hunter, definitely. He's card draw, which is awesome. Untapping is still super good though.
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EDH:
Krenko, Goblin Stampede
Nylea, God of Hydra Counters
Mahadi, Emporium Master
Feather, Catrips Redeemed
Ghired, The Tokened
Hakbal, Merfolk Massacre
Ten and Clara, Suspended
Krenko, Goblin Stampede
Nylea, God of Hydra Counters
Mahadi, Emporium Master
Feather, Catrips Redeemed
Ghired, The Tokened
Hakbal, Merfolk Massacre
Ten and Clara, Suspended
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It's gotta be OG Bolas. Sure, God Pharoah can do more things and is one cheaper, but the first planeswalker iteration of Bolas does nearly everything God Pharoah wants to do, except better. No random theft, no worries about some X/8 coming for you head. Just shoot their best thing or steal it if it's a worthwhile mook. OG even has a slightly more attainable ult (+3 is nuts).
Greater Good vs Rishkar's Expertise
Greater Good vs Rishkar's Expertise
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Rishkar's Expertise, probably. Don't get me wrong, Greater Good is good, but card recursion is not hard in green and I'd probably prefer to keep my big creature around and cast a free spell. In my opinion GG needs other support like a graveyard/reanimation shell so the big fat creature comes back easily.
Sorry, another pair of walkers.
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Sorry, another pair of walkers.
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Ugin. The cost reduction is really powerful, assuming you have enough colorless spells to take advantage of it. Hitting enchantments and other planeswalkers is also a significant upside. Ob Nixilis's ultimate will take out an opponent if you get to it, but only one of them.
(....I might still be slightly salty about the time an Atraxa deck went Ob → Deepglow Skate → ult, targeting me. They didn't end up winning the game, but I only got one turn before I went from 40 to 0. That emblem is really nasty in multiplayer.)
As for happier cards....
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(....I might still be slightly salty about the time an Atraxa deck went Ob → Deepglow Skate → ult, targeting me. They didn't end up winning the game, but I only got one turn before I went from 40 to 0. That emblem is really nasty in multiplayer.)
As for happier cards....
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Dawn of Hope. I like that it's a mana sink in addition to being a draw engine, even though well is way more cards possible.
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EDH:
Krenko, Goblin Stampede
Nylea, God of Hydra Counters
Mahadi, Emporium Master
Feather, Catrips Redeemed
Ghired, The Tokened
Hakbal, Merfolk Massacre
Ten and Clara, Suspended
Krenko, Goblin Stampede
Nylea, God of Hydra Counters
Mahadi, Emporium Master
Feather, Catrips Redeemed
Ghired, The Tokened
Hakbal, Merfolk Massacre
Ten and Clara, Suspended