Monthly Legacy event top 8 archetypes- Cardiff, UK

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Post by drmarkb » 1 year ago

I am going to put a record of our store Legacy FNM events monthly here (and any comp REL we have) for anyone interested.
I will hopefully be able to get decklists for the comp REL events.
There might be the odd gap on the archetypes. Our events are typically 20-25 players, but because people travel from a fair distance we have a lot of different players who don't make every one, plus people own multiple decks as the community is well established now, leading to some interesting metas.
The events are at Firestorm Games, Cardiff, Wales, UK.

Archetypes as follows
Mono-Red Sneak/TTB combo (splash white)
Miracles
Grixis control
Burn
Miracles
Miracles
Traditional pox
12 Post (big colorless Eldrazi, not Green Candelabra)
Delver
Stax (colorless/ Mono Brown)
UB Death's Shadow
DnT
DnT
Nic Fit (Abz)
Mono-B "the gate" with red splash
Unknown blue-X deck
Rug delver
Mana'd Dredge
Maverick GW (with thespian combo)
Mono-R Goblins
RUG Delver

The 12 points was Mana Dredge
9 pointers as follows
Stax (mono Brown)
Abz Nic Fit
Grixis Control
Goblins
Mono Red Combo
Mono B "the gate" with R splash

Cheers, till next month.

So not a good month for Brainstorm!

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Post by drmarkb » 1 year ago

Here is another FNM, this time with a record turnout- sadly a record low of just 12 down from our regular 20-24. Not sure what happened- perhaps all the Brainstorm players had a convention, because they sure as hell were not about. I managed to lose the sheet of archetypes, but with just 12 players it was not so difficult to remember.
These archetypes are from the 4 round event
Depths
Depths Elves
Hogaak Depths
UW RIP helm (spicy landstill variant)
Hogaak dredge (manad)
Nic Fit

Goblins
12 Post
12 Post
RUG Delver
Burn
There was one more fair deck lurking, it was Maverick I think.

The results were 4-0 for depths, and 3-1 for Depths elves, by the time fourth is hit we are in 6 point bracket (which was the RIP helm). A good day for 20/20s.

So half as many players, fewer playing Brainstorm than ever. Three months ago there were about 4 Miracles decks alone- perhaps they all are having a tough time online and did not fancy it, perhaps they were just busy or saving themselves for REL comp event later in the month.

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Post by Iso » 1 year ago

I'm really curious about the white splash in S&B. What was that all about?

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Post by drmarkb » 1 year ago

Oh, you mean in mono red sneak/breach in August?
Nahiri, was the main deck white splash, if that makes sense.....selection, and the ability to abuse the ultimate and removal of sorts I guess.
This month's one has been put back due to ELD release events, will be back with what I hope is a bigger list of participants than Sept....

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Post by wildfire393 » 1 year ago

RW Nahiri is a pretty sweet card in any deck that can support at least a copy of Emrakul.

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Post by drmarkb » 1 year ago

Indeed.
I use RW Nahiri in Parfait, the very old mono-ish W Land Tax-Scroll rack deck full of answers like Moon, Humility etc and acceleration via Moxen/Cities of T, which I run from time to time. It fetches Helm to combo with RIP, as does Karn GTC. It is amazing how good Nahiri is, it is just that at 4cc you can have Jace in a Brainstorm deck, and there are few reasons to not play Brainstorm decks aside from powerful decks like depths and an overabundance of Chalice.

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Post by drmarkb » 1 year ago

Here we go for another FNM, delayed by one week.
Same story as last time really- low attendance- seems to be a storewide phenomenon, Modern before it was low too.
Just 12 hardy souls.

Top of the shop with positive records
20/20 Depths (mox diamonds, bobs, bunch of decays and handkill)
Elves - with 20/20s
Dredge (mana'd)
Maverick
After that some 6 pointers, in no particular order:
RBw reanimatior
Mono B Leyline /helm - Pox without even the err, smallpox.
Depths (KOTR included, but not Maverick- without the stoneforge/equipments or mana dorks/Thalia)
Mono Red
Then into, again no order
12 Post
Miracles (UWr)
Goblins
UB mill brew??!!

So pretty high on combo, maybe a three fair decks if we stretch a point- just two blue decks and one of them was a UB mill brew rather than anything recognised. The online meta of W6- Temur Delver and 4c good stuff perhaps has encouraged people to go another way, although it must be noted that a few of the decks above are good at ignoring W6 too.
No idea why this meta has settled like this- card availability is no issue for sure, but it seems that people don't want to play blue- whereas six months ago we had 20+ and half at least were Blue decks-miracles mirrors were everywhere. I feel like putting up a lost sign in the local newsagent- "lost: bunch of blue decks, answers to the name of Show and Tell, Jeskai Mentor, Miracles, or Delver".....till next month.

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Post by drmarkb » 11 months ago

Another FNM.
Once again, 25 players in June has halved to 13.
Once again nobody wants to play blue. I guess the MTGO players are sick to the back teeth of RUG delver and pile. Certainly isn't that players don' t want them- I have a bunch of blue decks and nobody has asked to borrow one in ages, bar someone wanting RUG delver last month.
Literally can't give away sneak and show, miracles etc., at least for the evening.


the archetypes
2 Moon stompy
1 steel stompy (BW)
1 Dredge (mana)
1 Elves
1 RBx reanimator (green splash)
1 Medium depths
2 D N T (one spicy with sol lands and ballista)
2 Eldrazi cloudposts
1 Maverick
1 Nic Fit

12 was elves, and the dredge, depths, reanimator made 9.

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Post by wildfire393 » 11 months ago

Do you have the list for Steel Stompy? I'm not really certain what that is but it sounds interesting.

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Post by drmarkb » 11 months ago

I can get it.
It is a brew- not mine- tide hollow sculler, mystic forge, chalice package- probably Karn, think there are a few constructs in it. It went 2-2

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Post by drmarkb » 10 months ago

And here is December's lot- forget to grab that steel stompy list- I will grab it next time.

Staff meal/night out days, so we were pleased to have gotten 11, with some regulars missing but some new to the format. Happy days

Some spicy lists.
BUG elves with Oko and Karn won it for some spice.
BW 8 rack was second for some more spice
DnT and
Medium depths
rounded out the 9 pointers I think.
Merfolk (with brazen borrowers)
Show and Tell (no cunning wish, 3 omniscience)
Infect (with Oko/Tef)
MUD (metalworker)
RB Reanimator
DnT 2
Pox
rounded out the 6-3 point bracket

So a bit more in the way of islands and a higher force count than previous months.
Till next month.

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Post by drmarkb » 9 months ago

Another FNM
12 Players, seems to have been this way for 4-5 months.

12 points was Infect
9 point brackets- medium depths, goblins, parfait (Wg)
and then on 6 or less
bant miracles
sneak and show
mono red prison
Bg painter
Bw aggro pox/8 rack
MUD
UW Miracles
UB death's shadow
Back to a healthy amount of blue....

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Post by drmarkb » 8 months ago

Another cardiff FNM, some different faces, some different decks, 12 players and the results below.

10 points- Mana'd dredge and Mono red Moons

on 9 was a slightly cobbled together Infect

at 7 we saw bant miracles
whilst 5 lots of 6 pointers were
aggro eldrazi
white stax
uw miracles
show and tell
elves (karn-y elves)

filling out the archetypes

mono B painter
aggro pox
dnt

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Post by drmarkb » 7 months ago

Once again I continue in my mission to track the FNM paper scene here.
15 players braving coronavirus and slinging cardboard of various flavours.

Much more blue and a nice diverse set of decks.

12 points was Infect, with the obligatory Oko, because, well, it is Oko.

9s gave us

Regular elves
Parfait
Infect
BUG lands

and then 6 points.......
Sneak and Show
D N T
Enchantress (GWb, no living wish tech)
UR delver
Bant Miracles
Mono Red Moon stompy

And finally

D N T
Pox
Manaless dredge
Bant Miracles

So seven blue decks, and doubling up were Infect, Bant miracles, and D n T.

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Post by drmarkb » 1 month ago

Well back again after a long hiatus, with some paper Legacy.
I believe this was the first paper UK Legacy event post lockdown to fire.
Four rounds of socially distanced paper Legacy.

23 players, a last minute drop out from the paid 24 was too late for our reserve list players to get there, sadly. We even kicked out Standard too from the schedule, I believe, spreading the gospel of Legacy. Players came from as far as west Wales and Reading for a memorable night of Mtg. I can safely say I have never had a temperature check on entry to a Mtg event before, and a "no touching other people's stuff" rule meant that we did not have to lean over the long tables. Masked faces were less of a barrier to communication than I would have imagined, and I have to say, it was a real pleasure to play cardboard.

Here are the decks. I don't normally include deck lists or player's names, partly so that people locally don't get their lists spoiled when they read this, but I have had permission for this.
Here is the breakdown of decks

combo
4c (non white) doomsday
GWb Enchantress (helm/rip and Emmy, no living wish)
UG Echo of eons/Painter (oko plan B)
12 post (colourless)
BG depths (mox diamonds, not turbo with petals)


aggro
2 UR delver
2 x d n t
2 Aggro eldrazi
BR goblins
esper vial
GW hatebears

control
UWr Miracles
2 snowko bant
2 red prison
8 rack

Control/combo
UWr RIP/helm
mono black Leyline/helm/Karn
MUD

By my reckoning that is just 9 Blue decks out of 23 and only 8 with forces (Echo narset Painter using blue for just echo/Narset/Emry and an obligatory Oko backup plan for when the combo does not execute early). The relative lack of blue is not due to lack of cards- I had complete blue decks going spare on the night such as Sneak and Show, Infect, Ninjas etc. and so duals were available in most colours alongside the obligatory Forces etc. I think it is more to do with player preference- over the years the area has always been both chalice/aggro and combo heavy because a lot of players like those archetypes, and once you are invested in an archetype it takes a lot to just start playing another archetype. Combos do seem to have proliferated with cards like Thassa's Oracle adding more choice and spice to existing decks. I personally love a good prison deck, but even then more than half my chosen decks these past few years have a combo in that can end the game in the early turns, although I will concede that a deck like UR delver may be chosen over RUG in paper as RUG always seems to be close to a ban thanks to cards like Oko and before it W6 giving it new toys, whereas UR delver is just always good.

The results:

On 12 points we have two decks, firstly, 4c doomsday, which did not drop a game.
It was played by the lovely James Johns, aka, Doishy online. You can get some info and discussion on this elegant deck at DDFT.wiki
Here is the list
1 Badlands
1 cavern of souls
1 Island
4 polluted delta
4 scalding tarn
1 swamp
1 tropical island
3 underground sea
1 volcanic island
4 brainstorm
4 dark ritual
4 daze
4 doomsday
1 duress
1 edge of autumn
4 force of will
1 ideas unbound
1 lim dul's vault
1 lion's eye diamond
3 lotus petal
4 ponder
1 predict
4 preordain
1 spell pierce
2 street wraith
1 thassa's oracle
2 thoughtseize

board
2 abrade
1 goblin cratermaker
1 echoing truth
1 massacre
2 pyroblast
1 Red elemental blast
2 surgical extraction
2 tormod's crypt
3 veil of summer

Also on 12 was UR delver- I did not get to see this list or chat to the pilot, but I have been assured it was UR delver and not RUG. I will try and get acquainted next time, but with the decks I play I don't get much time between rounds!

on 9, in no particular order was
GWb enchantress (this was a deck I loaned out and was, typically, the only deck I lost to, in a cracking 2/1 match. It is a pretty standard build, but does not run Wish tech or, indeed, Replenish as it runs 2 helm and 3 RIP main)
Mono- R prison- I believe it was a reasonably standard mono- r build- the other one fared rather poorly with just one point.
Snowko - conventional bant snowko, it does not run the volcanic and pyrobast in the board as there is not quite enough blue to justify it
Mono B leyline helm karn (which is my deck and I am always happy to share the list- generally I am on this, Parfait or prison decks- and happy to share lists)
MUD - I did not see the list or this in action, sadly.

That gives us a reasonably balanced top 7 with positive records: 1 tempo ( I guess you could call it aggro if you want), 2 control, 2 control/combo, 2 combo, split with 3 blue decks- doomsday, delver and snowko- and 4 non blue, with 2 dedicated chalice decks in that.


On 6, again in no particular order: UR delver, UWr Miracles, both Eldrazi Stompy decks, 12 post (colourless), GW hatebears, Depths (described as "extra medium" by its excellent and hugely experienced pilot, so I am not going to argue) and the second snowko.

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