[ELD] Fires of invention (Vandal Es)

[Marquis]

Fires of Invention

Enchantment

You can only cast spells during your turn and you cannot cast more than two spells each turn.
you can cast spells with converted mana cost less than or equal to the amount of land you control without paying their mana costs

Tell us how many you want and get lost



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[ilovesaprolings]

What.... what? That's crazy...

[RxPhantom]

What.... what? That's crazy...

Haha! That's basically what I came to say.

How can this be broken in half, I wonder?

[Cyberium]

Damn, with green ramp you would be casting any spell for free from there on.

[Impossible]

Why does it feel like red just keeps getting worse versions of blue's effects? First it was looting, but worse. Then it was card draw, but worse. Now it's Omniscience, but worse.

[netn10]

Why does it feel like red just keeps getting worse versions of blue's effects? First it was looting, but worse. Then it was card draw, but worse. Now it's Omniscience, but worse.

It cost 6 mana less than Omniscience, I don't think we can compare the two, they function very differently.

[Mookie]

A mana tripler? For four mana? Seems potent - the base case of casting two X-drops per turn when you have X lands is pretty good, and if you have something to spend your mana on, even better (ex: activated abilities like Kenrith, the Returned King). I suppose that the main draw of mana doublers is getting to ramp into more expensive things (like giant X spells), or casting lots of spells in a single turn (often because you're storming off with land untap effects), which this doesn't support.

....it's a powerful effect, so I imagine someone will find a way to break it.

[Serenade]

WE WANT RED TO CAST SPELLS!

But not that many.

[NZB2323]

Why does it feel like red just keeps getting worse versions of blue's effects? First it was looting, but worse. Then it was card draw, but worse. Now it's Omniscience, but worse.

Omniscience cost way more mana. That's like saying that Bloodbraid Elf is worse than craterhoof behemoth.

Red has recently got a lot of powerful cards:

• Chandra, Awakened Inferno
• Seasoned Pyromancer
• Wrenn and Six

Anyway, this card works well with cards like Living End and Restore Balance.

[Impossible]

It cost 6 mana less than Omniscience, I don't think we can compare the two, they function very differently.

Omniscience cost way more mana. That's like saying that Bloodbraid Elf is worse than craterhoof behemoth.

I wasn't making a direct comparison between the cards, just the effects. It's no secret R&D has been trying to expand what Red can do, and I just find it weird that everything they try appears to just be a worse version of a Blue effect. What's next, worse flying?

[pokken]

Repeated methods of bouncing enchantments like Teferi, Time Raveler may be pretty good. Cast your free two spells, bounce it, pass turn, do whatever you want. Probably worse than wilderness reclamation for that.

Might be a way to phase it out?

Also a reasonable way to accelerate into infinite turn loops with Soulfire Grand Master (since you just activate soulfire + warp) for 4 mana every turn once you have five lands. And lets you cast one more spell for free every turn ofc.

[The Fluff]

want a playset of these. Looks like there's some way to break it.

[Max Rebo]

Double Urza's Rage for 20 for free turn four or five? Three in magical super christmas land

[Mookie]

Double Urza's Rage for 20 for free turn four or five? Three in magical super christmas land

Doesn't work - 'without paying its mana cost' means you just get the default spell, with no kicker. You can, however, pay the kicker cost with all the mana you're saving by not spending it on spells.

[ilovesaprolings]

Anyway, this card works well with cards like Living End and Restore Balance.

Does this work even if they have no mana cost?

I wasn't making a direct comparison between the cards, just the effects. It's no secret R&D has been trying to expand what Red can do, and I just find it weird that everything they try appears to just be a worse version of a Blue effect. What's next, worse flying?

I think it's amusing that red has to pay 4 for an extra combat step, while blue has a whole extra turn for 5

[Serenade]

Red has to pay 2 for an extra turn...

[Taleran]

Anyway, this card works well with cards like Living End and Restore Balance.

Does this work even if they have no mana cost?

I wasn't making a direct comparison between the cards, just the effects. It's no secret R&D has been trying to expand what Red can do, and I just find it weird that everything they try appears to just be a worse version of a Blue effect. What's next, worse flying?

I think it's amusing that red has to pay 4 for an extra combat step, while blue has a whole extra turn for 5

It is how Suspend cards currently work with

Dreadhorde Arcanist and Bolas's Citadel and a bunch of othrt effects yeah

Every card has a CMC for purposes of cards like this or Confidant Ad Nauseam they don't just have N/A or VOID as their CMC

[pierreb]

This merely double your mana, while imposing strict restrictions. Interesting, but then your opponent plays deafening silence and you look silly. (unless your combo involved playing multiple creatures...)

This works like a more costly as foretold for the time spiral spells.

[Wallycaine]

This merely double your mana, while imposing strict restrictions. Interesting, but then your opponent plays deafening silence and you look silly. (unless your combo involved playing multiple creatures...)

This works like a more costly as foretold for the time spiral spells.

If you have activated abilities, this effectively triples your mana. Additionally, it can combo with flicker effects like flickerwisp to allow you to cast the spells for free and then still spend your mana normally.

[Impossible]

It also mana fixes for you perfectly, letting you play things like Nicol Bolas, Dragon-God and Niv-Mizzet, Parun in the same deck. It could allow some sort of 5-color midrange deck to exist in Standard.

[Taleran]

So here me out

We get to 9 Lands

cast Grozoth find a bunch of 9 Drops including a copy of Myojin of Life's Web

[Serenade]

...if you fuse Catch/Release, is that one or two spells?

[Wallycaine]

...if you fuse Catch/Release, is that one or two spells?

One Spell. Note that in order to fuse it, you would need lands equal to the combined CMC, rather than just one half or the other.

[Serenade]

Right, you have the nine for Grozoth.

[motleyslayer]

this card is super interesting, I really like it. I'm also interested if this will be better or worse than experimental frenzy or if they will actually work together (I strongly doubt this]