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Post by The Fluff » 4 years ago

Hi, for example I have no cards in hand. Activate Castle Locthwain ability, do I lose 1 life from the card drawn or not?

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by Argus » 4 years ago
"1BB, T: Draw a card, then you lose life equal to the number of cards in your hand."

After you draw a card, the number of cards in your hand will be 1. Then that is the amount of life you lose. That effect doesn't care how many cards used to be in your hand.
608.2c The controller of the spell or ability follows its instructions in the order written. However,
replacement effects may modify these actions. In some cases, later text on the card may modify
the meaning of earlier text (for example, "Destroy target creature. It can't be regenerated" or
"Counter target spell. If that spell is countered this way, put it on top of its owner's library
instead of into its owner's graveyard.") Don't just apply effects step by step without thinking in
these cases—read the whole text and apply the rules of English to the text.

608.2g If an effect requires information from the game (such as the number of creatures on the
battlefield), the answer is determined only once, when the effect is applied.
If the effect requires
information from a specific object, including the source of the ability itself, the effect uses the
current information of that object if it's in the public zone it was expected to be in; if it's no
longer in that zone, or if the effect has moved it from a public zone to a hidden zone, the effect
uses the object's last known information. See rule 113.7a. If an ability states that an object does
something, it's the object as it exists—or as it most recently existed—that does it, not the
ability.
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Post by Argus » 4 years ago

"1BB, T: Draw a card, then you lose life equal to the number of cards in your hand."

After you draw a card, the number of cards in your hand will be 1. Then that is the amount of life you lose. That effect doesn't care how many cards used to be in your hand.
608.2c The controller of the spell or ability follows its instructions in the order written. However,
replacement effects may modify these actions. In some cases, later text on the card may modify
the meaning of earlier text (for example, "Destroy target creature. It can't be regenerated" or
"Counter target spell. If that spell is countered this way, put it on top of its owner's library
instead of into its owner's graveyard.") Don't just apply effects step by step without thinking in
these cases—read the whole text and apply the rules of English to the text.

608.2g If an effect requires information from the game (such as the number of creatures on the
battlefield), the answer is determined only once, when the effect is applied.
If the effect requires
information from a specific object, including the source of the ability itself, the effect uses the
current information of that object if it's in the public zone it was expected to be in; if it's no
longer in that zone, or if the effect has moved it from a public zone to a hidden zone, the effect
uses the object's last known information. See rule 113.7a. If an ability states that an object does
something, it's the object as it exists—or as it most recently existed—that does it, not the
ability.
Why bother with mere rulings when so many answers can be found in the Rules?

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Post by The Fluff » 4 years ago

ah, I see now. So it counts the card drawn in losing life. Thanks for clearing it up. :)
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